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    Yup. If you get the same reaction from person...

    Yup. If you get the same reaction from person after person after person...it must be them. It can't possibly you.,.
  2. Most reasonable pro gun people should want a...

    Most reasonable pro gun people should want a respect for firearms taught. I know I do and it's fairly obvious the GF is the same way.

    Teach respect for guns along with capability in handling a...
  3. I'm at that point with three people as well.

    I'm at that point with three people as well.
  4. I think Fish touched on exactly this when he was...

    I think Fish touched on exactly this when he was talking about the armed guards (MPs) on bases. Having a constantly armed police force on site prevents it from being a gun free zone.

    But you are...
  5. I'll reply to the bolded one. To start it off at...

    I'll reply to the bolded one. To start it off at least.

    Gangs: Part of this comes from several different areas itself. Uninvolved parents, limited economic opportunity/status, lack of a good...
  6. Going to fract you for backseat moderating.

    Going to fract you for backseat moderating.
  7. Easy there Dutch.

    Easy there Dutch.
  8. And you're intentionally blinding yourself to any...

    And you're intentionally blinding yourself to any idea outside your vacuum.

    You want to act like a gun ban is the end all be all be my guest. You're still wrong and nothing you've shown or said...
  9. It also argues against a gun ban then. Violent...

    It also argues against a gun ban then. Violent crime is going down and America doesn't have a gun ban. If a gun ban was needed then violent crime would be increasing. Deconstructed.
  10. Dude this is a terrible argument. What is it...

    Dude this is a terrible argument.

    What is it with people trying to act like any single part of this exists in a vacuum?

    Am I the only one that thinks that is absurd?

    One can absolutely use...
  11. I absolutely agree. That is what I have been...

    I absolutely agree. That is what I have been arguing.

    A ban on guns wont fix anything.

    Securing the border, improved mental health resources, banning guns, improving education and opportunity...
  12. You keep trying to look at it in a vacuum. But...

    You keep trying to look at it in a vacuum. But like everything else it doesn't exist in a vacuum.

    Any part of a successful gun banning would have to have secure borders to stop the flow of future...
  13. There are already buy back programs all over the...

    There are already buy back programs all over the country. Many police departments have them.

    Also the gov, could ban the sale of firearms (they wont because but I digress) but that won't solve...
  14. I mean what other rights would need to be...

    I mean what other rights would need to be violated along the way to have a gun free society on the level of say England.

    What would need to be done to get from point A (Current gun laden American...
  15. Neither one of them have nearly the border issues...

    Neither one of them have nearly the border issues that America has. Horrible comparison.
  16. Because that worked with drugs? There will be a...

    Because that worked with drugs? There will be a growing influx of guns across the border. Cartels and other shady groups would jump on a gun ban instantly. Not to mention the already growing trend...
  17. What additional rights and privileges were...

    What additional rights and privileges were lost/violated along the way?
  18. I agree that it could be part of a larger...

    I agree that it could be part of a larger solution. But is it a solution that we could all stomach? What else would be needed beyond banning future firearm sales?
  19. I absolutely agree with the bolded. But "gun...

    I absolutely agree with the bolded.

    But "gun control" by itself will never solve the problem of gun violence.

    As Franklin* has point out...gangs anyone? just to name one of many areas that...
  20. In the long term the majority of guns stay...

    In the long term the majority of guns stay unregistered and the black market/illegal trade for guns explodes.
  21. If so be it is your response to a civil war then...

    If so be it is your response to a civil war then that brings into serious doubt your argument about saving lives. Makes it seem more about control.

    Sure offer incentives to turn in guns. There...
  22. So let us say that future firearms are...

    So let us say that future firearms are restricted, particularly "assault rifles". Fine whatever.

    What happens now? How do we fight the 300+ million firearms already owned? or the fact that, if...
  23. And you are proving his point that your snide...

    And you are proving his point that your snide attitude and condescending tone do nothing to further your argument.

    You're better than that Dala.

    On a side note lol at HH being worried about...
  24. You know why. Look who the OP is.

    You know why. Look who the OP is.
  25. I see what you're saying but I think it works...

    I see what you're saying but I think it works both ways.
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