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  1. What if Burks blows up this year, or (as I think)...

    What if Burks blows up this year, or (as I think) becomes our leading scorer? And what if Kanter (getting 30 plus minutes) increases his numbers to 14/9? Gortat just inked 12 million per for 5 on...
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    Technically, DL can still work a separate deal...

    Technically, DL can still work a separate deal with Charlotte with the agreement not to match. Charlotte gives up assets (whatever they might be), and gets the added benefit of not paying Hayward...
  3. Freak, good to hear your voice. Yeah, I think...

    Freak, good to hear your voice.

    Yeah, I think this is coming from ownership. Even though the team will stink overpaying Hayward, they're terrified to take a "catastrophic" step back by not...
  4. Doh. Well, at least I don't have to change my...

    Doh. Well, at least I don't have to change my point
  5. And FWIW, I don't see how anyone can argue this...

    And FWIW, I don't see how anyone can argue this offseason isn't just a salary bubble, like the tech or housing bubbles. Teams will overspend in the arms race, but next season when the number of...
  6. I wouldn't be talking myself into paying Burks...

    I wouldn't be talking myself into paying Burks the Max, either.
  7. Last part of the poker game is convincing Jordan...

    Last part of the poker game is convincing Jordan you're going to match, but that if you were blown away you'd consider letting him go. Jordan's been really aggressive, he was thisclose to making the...
  8. What I find fascinating is this: Hayward...

    What I find fascinating is this: Hayward struggled badly while playing under the comparitively light pressure of trying to earn a bigger contract. Now he's supposed to flourish under the pressure...
  9. Even without the alleged tradekicker, Hayward is...

    Even without the alleged tradekicker, Hayward is instantly untradeable the moment he signs that deal.
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    I completely understand your point, and I agree...

    I completely understand your point, and I agree that the new CBA helps to protect teams from themeselves as far as albatross contracts go. But just look at Detroit. One year into the Josh Smith...
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    What you said sounds exactly like the things fans...

    What you said sounds exactly like the things fans of Arenas, Lewis, and Davis said to themselves on Day 1.

    I could go into a longer diatribe, but as a general rule, MAX players are worth it from...
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    Preach it GVC. Only an insecure GM worried about...

    Preach it GVC. Only an insecure GM worried about his job would cave to the market in drastically overpaying Hayward. The world will not end if we let him go. An S&T that recovers some of his value...
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    Fair, but the Jazz can't start the new deal...

    Fair, but the Jazz can't start the new deal higher than 14.8 right? So if they flatten out the numbers (with a few raises mixed in), they'll still have a hard time getting to the number in year 5...
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    This makes little financial sense for Hayward...

    This makes little financial sense for Hayward because he's giving up a year of free agency. At the end of a 4 year MAX he's 28 and signs a second MAX deal at a much higher number in year 5. In the...
  15. I'll take a crack at this, but I defer to GVC's...

    I'll take a crack at this, but I defer to GVC's final ruling.

    Bird Free Agents can get 5 years at any negotiated salary. The "5 Year Max" thing I think you're talking about only applies to...
  16. So we either sign Hayward to Max Money or fall...

    So we either sign Hayward to Max Money or fall off the edge of the Earth? I'd rather see what the edge of the Earth looks like. I'll bet it looks a lot like Cleveland.
  17. It will be hilarious to match and then find out...

    It will be hilarious to match and then find out Burks is the better player.
  18. Genessy already tweeted out what the deals would...

    Genessy already tweeted out what the deals would look like: https://twitter.com/DJJazzyJody/status/483392641451978752/photo/1

    Basically: Utah Max is 5 years starting at 14.8 and running to 19.2;...
  19. Gut feeling is Hayward doesn't want to come back....

    Gut feeling is Hayward doesn't want to come back. His agent will probably tell bidders only a MAX offer will get his signature, otherwise he won't sign any sheet and play out the season.

    The...
  20. Thread: WOW!

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    Chad Ford tweeted it. Gordon @ 4, Exum @ 5. ...

    Chad Ford tweeted it. Gordon @ 4, Exum @ 5. It's real. Unbelievable good luck. Thank god Orlando's GM is worried about his job.
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    Oh, I also think Stauskas will be no worse than...

    Oh, I also think Stauskas will be no worse than 15th in a 'redraft' 5 years later, and perhaps 5th. To my mind, he's the safest pick in the entire draft. He's a ridiculously good shooter by the...
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    A healthy Embiid is the best player in this...

    A healthy Embiid is the best player in this draft. It would be evident by the end of year 3, and in that year, fully healthy, he will be a Top 10 player in the NBA. I know this because I have...
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    Hey back at ya. The Old Guard like Numb and GVC...

    Hey back at ya. The Old Guard like Numb and GVC are still around, but I can't figure out the others with the name changes.
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    Well said

    Well said
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    I think this might be the opposite. DL knew we...

    I think this might be the opposite. DL knew we didn't have a point, knew Burke would get big minutes, and "knew" that Burke would put up halfway respectable numbers. In other words, Burke became...
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