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    Quote Originally Posted by SiroMar View Post
    They range in age between mid 20s to mid 40s. I wish they were just young and naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiroMar View Post
    Pretty much what I said. I just said it better.


















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    I hate you.

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    The sad thing is: the Jazz are playing guys who might not make the team, and certainly won't make the rotation, and they're killing real Lakers players. This is a disaster for LA.

    I love it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhi View Post
    I thought Dal was black for a long time. He was one of the people I was referencing when I told colleagues I have several black friends.

    I still like him irredgardless.
    *confirmed*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scat View Post
    I find that many conservatives are very open minded as long as you agree with everything they think and say. I'd say more but don't want to flame the hatred.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrone Torbin View Post
    You can interchange these words and the sentence still holds true.
    The difference is that conservatives typically have a known set of values and beliefs and readily admit these up front. Liberals claim to be open minded and accepting of all values and beliefs but only as far as you agree with them in many cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
    That is the problem with liberals (which I think is different than a left leaning individual). They know better than you. No matter what it is, they know how you should behave and what you should do better than you do.
    Liberals and conservatives are all dumb asses, to be either a strong liberal or conservative you have to be fairly illogical and 100% stubborn.

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    I'm just middle of the road, like everyone else who has posted in this thread.

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    I considered myself liberal until I watched the movie Easy A. That family was so liberal it made me ashamed of being liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennykyle View Post
    Liberals and conservatives are all dumb asses, to be either a strong liberal or conservative you have to be fairly illogical and 100% stubborn.
    to be just liberal on everything or conservative on everything yes you have to be.
    #BelieveInLindsey #BelieveInSnyder

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    I considered myself liberal until I watched the movie Easy A. That family was so liberal it made me ashamed of being liberal.

    Case in point about intolerant liberals.
    #BelieveInLindsey #BelieveInSnyder

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    Just on outward manifestations alone, I think the big consversative/liberal divide is that there is a strong term identity relationship inherent in liberalism that doesn't really exist in conservatives. Liberals want you to know they are liberal. They want you to know they are trendy. They want you to think they really do care about cars running on poop, female polar bears' reproductive health, the water level off the coast of Guam, and every other "problem" in the world that nobody cares about because they aren't as cool as them. And then when you laugh at them, they go into the bag of defensive terminology and pull out racist, bigot, or homophobe even though you were talking about the water level off the coast of Guam. **** gets old.

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    You guys are all describing art major, pot smoking, hipsters now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    You guys are all describing art major, pot smoking, hipsters now!
    No, I'm talking about the average Dick and Jane Democrat working a white collar job in New York, L.A., Seattle, Boston, D.C., or San Francisco, that believe they evolved from the Ape's Ass Democrat of their college years into a more refined Angelic Democrat living by creeds such as legi, intellexi, et condemnavi. That's a liberal to me.

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    Wait we didn't evolve from apes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiroMar View Post
    A few days earlier, I had to defend the idea that human beings are far more intelligent than any other species on earth. You would think that this is so damn obvious, that it would be beyond reasonable discussion. But nope, not to them. Just look how intelligent that dog is! He totally understands what I'm saying. That's a good boy.
    Am I missing something, why would anyone want to argue about human intelligence (in general) superiority compared to animals? We are the ultimate result of evolution, debatable whether or not we were directed by God or not.

    Oh yeah, I don't think white people are racist, but the system (voting districts, marijuana possession arrest tactics) are favorably (or unfavorably) skewed towards certain races. Anyone can argue that affirmative actions are unfair as well.

    I don't get how anyone thinks communism is awesome. It's a terribly repressive government system and usually leads to the death or ignorance of millions of people (ex. North Korea). The only thing China does right is the swift execution of some white-collared crimes. If the U.S. had that, we wouldn't have the economy crashing into a ****hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asian_roger View Post
    Am I missing something, why would anyone want to argue about human intelligence (in general) superiority compared to animals? We are the ultimate result of evolution, debatable whether or not we were directed by God or not.

    Oh yeah, I don't think white people are racist, but the system (voting districts, marijuana possession arrest tactics) are favorably (or unfavorably) skewed towards certain races. Anyone can argue that affirmative actions are unfair as well.

    I don't get how anyone thinks communism is awesome. It's a terribly repressive government system and usually leads to the death or ignorance of millions of people (ex. North Korea). The only thing China does right is the swift execution of some white-collared crimes. If the U.S. had that, we wouldn't have the economy crashing into a ****hole.
    We have an attribute related to information processing and problem solving that we call intelligence. Humans possess this attribute at a MUCH higher level than any other animal. There is also massive differences in intelligence among animals. I don't see how this can be rationally denied.

    The racism argument is a bit long, and I don't feel like getting into. But as far as communism is concerned, the argument is that the Soviets and other communist were a corruption of TRUE communism. Marx vision of communism was anarchist and without any central government. It is about self-sufficiency and living a simple life. I personally find that horrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennykyle View Post
    Liberals and conservatives are all dumb asses, to be either a strong liberal or conservative you have to be fairly illogical and 100% stubborn.
    Good post. I have more politically conservative tendencies, but much of the far-right can be equally as repulsive as far-left. (not quite, but close)
    Overall, I like/identify with the conservative values much better than liberal values .. but I stand on my own belief system rather than subscribe to an entire platform. It seems anything else would be assinine.
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