Following potential 2013 draftees

[PKM]

Archie Goodwin has been named SEC Freshman of the Week after averaging 25 points, 7.5 rebounds and 6.5 assists.

[Gyp Rosetti]

Btw, here is Ben Howland's roster. Watch how badly he ****s this up.

Shabazz Muhammad - Rivals #1 recruit for 2012, McDonald's All-American
Kyle Anderson - Rivals #3 recruit for 2012, McDonald's All-American
Tony Parker - Rivals #27 recruit for 2012, McDonald's All-American
Larry Drew - former UNC player and McDonald's All-American
Travis Wear - former UNC player and McDonald's All-American
David Wear - former UNC player and McDonald's All-American
Joshua Smith - Rivals #23 recruit for 2010, McDonald's All-American
Jordan Adams - Rivals #62 recruit for 2012

Ben made three Final Fours in a row. Something Cal's never done.

[PKM]

Ben made three Final Fours in a row. Something Cal's never done.

Ben sucks and everyone know's it .. well, except one. Most around cbb know the ONLY reason he wasn't fired last season was this incoming recruiting class.

[Gyp Rosetti]

Ben sucks and everyone know's it .. well, except one. Most around cbb know the ONLY reason he wasn't fired last season was this incoming recruiting class.

Take your mouth off of Cal's junk for a second bro. Jesus.

[Gyp Rosetti]

Tony Mitchell's stats are pretty much down all the way around this year. he has cut his turnovers basically in half though.

[PKM]

Take your mouth off of Cal's junk for a second bro. Jesus.

You are the only one that even mentioned Cal, you big dummy.

[PKM]

Tony Mitchell's stats are pretty much down all the way around this year. he has cut his turnovers basically in half though.

I haven't seen him play yet this year, but I would imagine defenses are really keying on him. He'll need to fight through that and I suspect that he will. I mean, it's not like he's playing for crappy Ben Howland or something.

[Gyp Rosetti]

You are the only one that even mentioned Cal, you big dummy.

Yeah, because your homerism is nauseating. Sorry bro, I just call it as I see it.

I mean, Howland's so terrible that he was able to recruit the aforementioned players (which is interesting because I thought it was obvious to everyone but me that he sucks), make three straight finals fours, and help develop strong NBA talent and players like Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook, Darren Collison, Aaron Afflalo, Luc Mbah a Moute and Jrue Holiday.

[PKM]

Yeah, because your homerism is nauseating. Sorry bro, I just call it as I see it.

I mean, Howland's so terrible that he was able to recruit the aforementioned players (which is interesting because I thought it was obvious to everyone but me that he sucks), make three straight finals fours, and help develop strong NBA talent and players like Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook, Darren Collison, Aaron Afflalo, Luc Mbah a Moute and Jrue Holiday.

I disagree. I'm excited about the era we're in with UK bb, yes. Just as any fan would be. I offer fair analysis of the players, imo. If it's jaded, it's not intentional. I don't think it's homerism as much as it just being in a good place during this stretch.

Anyway, I am serious when I say Howland has definitely had some great success. He has also played a very boring brand of basketball (but who cares, right?). He also has been losing A LOT in recent years, has had a couple really bad team turmoils, and was an inch from being let go last year. How you have connected that to anything UK, I have no idea.

Your nausea is caused by hate, I'm afraid.

[Hartsock]

Yeah, because your homerism is nauseating. Sorry bro, I just call it as I see it.

I mean, Howland's so terrible that he was able to recruit the aforementioned players (which is interesting because I thought it was obvious to everyone but me that he sucks), make three straight finals fours, and help develop strong NBA talent and players like Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook, Darren Collison, Aaron Afflalo, Luc Mbah a Moute and Jrue Holiday.

Dude, Howland sucks ween, maybe he was decent at Pitt but at UCLA he has sucked. Look at all those players you just mentioned, with all that talent where has he taken UCLA? To the middle of the Pac12, a pretty bad conference?

[Gyp Rosetti]

Dude, Howland sucks ween, maybe he was decent at Pitt but at UCLA he has sucked. Look at all those players you just mentioned, with all that talent where has he taken UCLA? To the middle of the Pac12, a pretty bad conference?

You obviously missed the part where I said he took them to the Final Four three straight years. That's not pure talent.

That said, I'm not necessarily a Howland fan. He does play a VERY boring brand of basketball as PKM said. But to say he sucks as PKM did is just stupid. It's consistent though with his sentiment that Cal and UK in general run a clean brand of team sports. PKM sees what he wants to see.

[PKM]

You obviously missed the part where I said he took them to the Final Four three straight years. That's not pure talent.

That said, I'm not necessarily a Howland fan. He does play a VERY boring brand of basketball as PKM said. But to say he sucks as PKM did is just stupid. It's consistent though with his sentiment that Cal and UK in general run a clean brand of team sports. PKM sees what he wants to see.

I'm right here, ya know.

[Gyp Rosetti]

I'm right here, ya know.

I know. I said it your face.

[PKM]

I know. I said it your face.

Oh SNAP!

[Gyp Rosetti]

Oh SNAP!

Seriously though, how bad would Chaney have kicked Cal's ass?