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    I googled "Howland UCLA" and the first 6 listed were negative articles asking how long until Howland is finally fired. So I looked up his record the past few years;

    2009/10 - 14 and 18 (ouch!)
    2010/11 - 23 and 11 (only NCAA tourney appearance)
    2011/12 - 19 and 14 (awful)

    That's NOT good. Now I'll stop defending how awful Howland has been and leave it for Wes to defend him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth View Post
    Seriously though, how bad would Chaney have kicked Cal's ass?
    Haha, that coulda been ugly .. I'll give you that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    I googled "Howland UCLA" and the first 6 listed were negative articles asking how long until Howland is finally fired. So I looked up his record the past few years;

    2009/10 - 14 and 18 (ouch!)
    2010/11 - 23 and 11 (only NCAA tourney appearance)
    2011/12 - 19 and 14 (awful)

    That's NOT good. Now I'll stop defending how awful Howland has been and leave it for Wes to defend him.
    I'm still waiting for you to explain MKG's mom's Bentley and how you actually think he runs a clean program.

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    PKM, after Cal, who else would you say is great at developing talent?

    Also, looking at DX, Deshaun Thomas from Ohio State caught my eye as a second rounder. A 3/4 at 6'7" who's hitting 54%/48% (with 6.3 attempts per game) for 24.0 points, grabbing 7.3 rebounds and dishing for 1.5 assists. His wingspan is an inch and a half longer than Hayward's too. How is he?

    Or Pierre Jackson from Baylor? Small but strong stats.

    Dewayne Dedmon from USC?

    Phil Pressey from Missou?

    Michael-Carter Williams (9.3 assists per game) from 'Cuse?

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    I like that pierre jackson dude from what little i saw of him last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth View Post
    I'm still waiting for you to explain MKG's mom's Bentley and how you actually think he runs a clean program.
    I am going to respond to this, but I have company over .. will try to get to it after they leave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth View Post
    PKM, after Cal, who else would you say is great at developing talent?

    Also, looking at DX, Deshaun Thomas from Ohio State caught my eye as a second rounder. A 3/4 at 6'7" who's hitting 54%/48% (with 6.3 attempts per game) for 24.0 points, grabbing 7.3 rebounds and dishing for 1.5 assists. His wingspan is an inch and a half longer than Hayward's too. How is he?

    Or Pierre Jackson from Baylor? Small but strong stats.

    Dewayne Dedmon from USC?

    Phil Pressey from Missou?

    Michael-Carter Williams (9.3 assists per game) from 'Cuse?
    Same with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by fishonjazz View Post
    I like that pierre jackson dude from what little i saw of him last year.
    Meh. He's okay, but won't do nothing in the NBA, imo.
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    Got a guy who's pretty close to the team telling me Marcus Smart is a guy to look out for. This is notable because this guy is rarely wrong on players.

    The Shooting of Rondo, the intangibles of Kabongo, and the will to win of Ryan Harrow.

    Get off your Ass and go get this guy Lindsey.
    #lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth View Post
    I'm still waiting for you to explain MKG's mom's Bentley and how you actually think he runs a clean program.
    I'm still trying to get info on the Bentley. No one seems to know what you're talking about. You have a link or anything?
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    I can't believe I took your bait, but I did. I have no idea how I can prove a negative by showing you UK doesn't cheat .. so I simply compiled some data. So here are the results of clean/dirty programs. I went back 30 years. The following are the numbers of major NCAA violations resulting in probation and/or tourney bans, by blue-chip school .. and a few others; (everyone would like to take down UK .. so we are way under the microscope .. let's see what they've found)

    So, over the past 30 years;

    Baylor - 5 years spent on probation; 1 year post-season ban
    Louisville - 5 years spent on probation
    Wisconsin - 5 years spent on probation
    Ohio State - 4 years on probation; 1 year post-season ban
    Michigan - 4 years on probation; 1 year post-season ban
    UConn - 3 years spent on probation
    Kansas - 3 years spent on probation
    Indiana - 3 years spent on probation
    Utah - 3 years spent on probation
    Missouri - 3 years spent on probation
    Arizona - 2 years spent on probation
    Purdue - 2 years spent on probation
    Pittsburgh - 2 years spent on probation
    North Carolina - None
    Duke - None
    UK - None
    Michigan State - None

    This was actually a bit of work, so please don't just dismiss it with a dumb response.
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    Sorry been gone love this thread but don't want to go over the past 30 pages to figure out what I missed can anyone give me the cliff notes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xthren View Post
    Sorry been gone love this thread but don't want to go over the past 30 pages to figure out what I missed can anyone give me the cliff notes?
    Archie Goodwin is kicking ass. Totally. SEC freshman of the week averaging 25pts, 7.5rbs, 6.5asts .. badass.

    That's pretty much it.
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    Is anyone talking about Bennett? Have not had a chance to go through recently but he has looked really good.

    As for Howland....I hope no one is declaring he runs a clean program. Ask Shabazz how he was driving a a Navi for his junior and Sr year at Gorman. Or may be how his siter who is a 200 ranked womens tennis player got a sponsorship from addidas.

    Wriiten with three JD and cokes down. forgive the typos. thanks kids!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermin View Post
    Is anyone talking about Bennett? Have not had a chance to go through recently but he has looked really good.

    As for Howland....I hope no one is declaring he runs a clean program. Ask Shabazz how he was driving a a Navi for his junior and Sr year at Gorman. Or may be how his siter who is a 200 ranked womens tennis player got a sponsorship from addidas.

    Wriiten with three JD and cokes down. forgive the typos. thanks kids!

    No one has been discussing AnothonyB but I've been following him. Looking good.
    I've been bashing Howland and Wes has been butt-hurt about it.
    Glad to have you around.
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    This vid shows more of Archie's game than others that have been posted. Highlights from his first 4 games (his 5th one was his best, but this vid shows most of his shots).

    Notice the blocks, wow.

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    I have also liked Deshaun Thomas for awhile now, looks like he is only getting better.

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