I don't think it is much of an exaggeration to call our PG situation desperate. That, and given MCW's ability to slide to SG, I wouldn't mind at all if we went after both MCW and Burke.
What say y'all?
I don't think it is much of an exaggeration to call our PG situation desperate. That, and given MCW's ability to slide to SG, I wouldn't mind at all if we went after both MCW and Burke.
What say y'all?
(first update) Offseason to-do list:
(no order)
1. Let Mo, Foyeeee3, Al (s&t?), Watson, and Tinsley go.
2. Re-sign Carroll
3. Draft McCollum, Schroeder, and Giannis (leave the latter two in Europe for a year [maybe two years for Giannis]).
4. Sign Tony Allen
5. Try to keep Millsap. If that doesn't work, explore s&t options.
6. Remove Corbin. Hire Brad Stevens or SVG.
7. Sign Calderon to a one-year (2 max) deal, or see if the cash-strapped Lakers will let us absorb Nash's last year.
Dumb. Have you looked at MCW's shooting numbers? And our clutter of wings?Originally Posted by NAOS
Have you actually considered who is under contract after this year?
The clutter thins. Quickly.
(first update) Offseason to-do list:
(no order)
1. Let Mo, Foyeeee3, Al (s&t?), Watson, and Tinsley go.
2. Re-sign Carroll
3. Draft McCollum, Schroeder, and Giannis (leave the latter two in Europe for a year [maybe two years for Giannis]).
4. Sign Tony Allen
5. Try to keep Millsap. If that doesn't work, explore s&t options.
6. Remove Corbin. Hire Brad Stevens or SVG.
7. Sign Calderon to a one-year (2 max) deal, or see if the cash-strapped Lakers will let us absorb Nash's last year.
I think these are both fair points.
I definitely only like MCW at PG. He'd be taken way too high if he was played at SG. If I knew I could get Burke, I'd take someone else. (and vice versa)
Sandy Braille wrote: Scrodum to Penes!!!! ALLEY-OOP!!! U Gotta Love It Baby!!!
Yes, except even without the clutter, playing him at the 2 makes no sense given his awful shooting numbers--37.2%/20.5%. That makes Kendall Marshall look like Steve Kerr and we want to consider playing this kid at the 2? Dumb. It shouldn't even be in the discussion.
I wouldn't draft both with the notion that MCW would play significant minutes at SG. The method is simple:
1. Not all players pan out
2. we have zero PGs under contract at year's end, and therefore we need two.
3. Hopefully one guy deserves to be a starting pg. Remember... desperation.
4. If both players are legit, then minutes with both on the floor is possible. In fact, given the dearth of playmaking, perhaps this would be awesome.
Waiting for Gyp's dumb comment about dumbness...
(first update) Offseason to-do list:
(no order)
1. Let Mo, Foyeeee3, Al (s&t?), Watson, and Tinsley go.
2. Re-sign Carroll
3. Draft McCollum, Schroeder, and Giannis (leave the latter two in Europe for a year [maybe two years for Giannis]).
4. Sign Tony Allen
5. Try to keep Millsap. If that doesn't work, explore s&t options.
6. Remove Corbin. Hire Brad Stevens or SVG.
7. Sign Calderon to a one-year (2 max) deal, or see if the cash-strapped Lakers will let us absorb Nash's last year.
Only problem, NAOS, is that it's quite possible that neither turn into a legit starter. Maybe I just haven't quite grasped the gravity of building a team in Utah, but it still seems to me that we should be able to build 80% of our team through the draft (Kanter, Burks, Hayward), trades that have already been done (Favors), and make a major move to fix the last 20% through FA.
I realize it may very well be an overly romanticized notion, but taking a couple more very nice pieces in the draft, the ridding of some contracts, and going after Rondo as a near-max and contender would be my dream strat.
Sandy Braille wrote: Scrodum to Penes!!!! ALLEY-OOP!!! U Gotta Love It Baby!!!
Here is a good article about Nate Wolters of SDSU. I know PKM hates him but here it is anyways.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...f=twitter_feed
I am going to steer clear here of arguing because it's a new year and I'm going to try to be a better person. I simply feel that drafting both makes absolutely no sense as a) MCW can not and should not ever play the 2 based on his numbers which is why all of this started...b) Having two rookie 1st round points could cause contention...c) we need a vet (or two) at point like we have now unless we want to run two rookie points out there for 48 minutes a night and have no one to mentor (i'd draft burke and re-sign tinsley and possibly watson if he doesn't mind not playing)...d) it's a waste of a pick...basically you're hoping one of two pans out like it's throwing darts...this is basically what you're doing with your numbers 1-3 and it's not a bright move at all imo...we need to draft a pg (i think burke the more i read) and the best available, not two point guards.
This is absolutely fair.
I realize my scenario is desperate and conservative. We need to fix this position soon and thoroughly. And, yeah, I'm not holding my breath on FAs, especially of Rondo's ilk.
(first update) Offseason to-do list:
(no order)
1. Let Mo, Foyeeee3, Al (s&t?), Watson, and Tinsley go.
2. Re-sign Carroll
3. Draft McCollum, Schroeder, and Giannis (leave the latter two in Europe for a year [maybe two years for Giannis]).
4. Sign Tony Allen
5. Try to keep Millsap. If that doesn't work, explore s&t options.
6. Remove Corbin. Hire Brad Stevens or SVG.
7. Sign Calderon to a one-year (2 max) deal, or see if the cash-strapped Lakers will let us absorb Nash's last year.
Here are my favorite parts of the article:
AndNot better, I said. Different. Doesn't have Jimmer Range, or anything resembling Jimmer's jumper, but does a better job creating for others, figuring out ways to score from mid-range, and not turning the ball over. He's an actual point guard, too. Whether you like traditional stats -- 21.2 points, 5.9 assists, 5.1 rebounds as a junior while leading SDSU to its first NCAA tournament bid -- or advanced stats -- a 115.5 offensive rating while using a whopping 32.5 percent of his team's possessions -- Wolters looks quite good.
EnjoyShaquille Davis, a 19-year-old from Hempstead, was an actual Natehead. He showed up specifically to see Wolters. "Two years ago, my friend told me about him, but I didn't pay attention because I'm like, 'South Dakota State, where the hell is that?'" Davis said. "But then I saw his game against Washington last year -- he had 34 [points], he destroyed Terrence Ross and Tony Wroten, so I'm like, 'I have to pay more attention to this kid.' This was my chance to see him."
It's okay to lie to me and give me hope.
Sandy Braille wrote: Scrodum to Penes!!!! ALLEY-OOP!!! U Gotta Love It Baby!!!
We are going to get Rondo for Jefferson at the trade deadline.
It's only funny because Ross and Wroten that I HATED all throughout the 2012 draft thread.
Sandy Braille wrote: Scrodum to Penes!!!! ALLEY-OOP!!! U Gotta Love It Baby!!!
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