Ben Gordon wishes he had that handle, but I guess I can see the comparison. I would be happy with any of the four PGs in this draft. It reminds me of the Ty Lawson, Jrue Holiday, Eric Maynor year.Originally Posted by Jazz4ever
Kind of unfortunate for them that every team in the NBA already has a PG. Good for the Jazz though.
Yeah I do agree as well.
It reminds me of when a reporter asks Phil Jackson whether Chris Paul or DWill was better (This was about 2-3 years ago when DWill was with Jazz and Paul was with Hornets). Phil's answer was: He'd rather NOT face Chris Paul as an opponent. But, he'd rather have DWill running his team.
I think the point was, he'd rather have somebody who he can trust in managing his team, controlling the offense, etc.
This is why I think Burke is the better choice as well. He's not flashy in the way that MCW can pass or McCollum can shoot or Smart can score/rebound/steal/defend. Burke just seems to have a "steady-ness" quality about him. He's not flashy - but he'll give you a steady hand at the point, feed the open man, shoot the occasional 3's and does it with very low TO's.
If we're picking #18 and we pick him, I think it's a good pick for us.
Freakazoid = Matt Harpring. Just ask him - he won't deny it.
My Dream Draft '13: Trey 'Black Jesus' Burke & Glen Robinson III
My "back to reality" Draft '13 Dennis Schroeder aka "German General" & Giannis Adetokunbo aka "Greek Freak"
I don't think anyone would argue against that.
Well, I live near the Boston area and I have heard many things to dispute your opinion. Rondo has a quirky personality off the court and early in his career he was difficult to manage. If he wasn't so talented the Celtics would have traded him. There for a while even the fan base was ready to trade him. He has butted heads with KG, Pierce and Ray Allen. A contributing factor why Ray Allen left Boston was because of his strained relationship with Rondo. Rondo has been suspended a few times costing his team games.
Winning a championship doesn't make you a great leader, his talent helped win a championship not his "great" leadership. I do think Rondo is not as bad as he was when he came into the league but he is still hard headed about certain things. There is no doubt the kid has talent and works his butt off but leadership is more than working hard. Currently, I do not think it is Rondo's strong point. It is kind of like his jump shot, average and erratic but improving.
Yea I would be happy with Burke at 18.
Burke will go before 18, right? I mean, he's becoming the consensus #1 pg in a pg-starved market.
Yep, which means someone will reach for him. I just hope it is not the Jazz. I'm on the team that thinks that you still take BPA and try for a gem in the second round (Leo Westerman, Nate Wolters, Matthew Dellavedova or Myck Kabongo (maybe?)).
Go for WCS and Dario Saric or something like that.
Or maybe this stud named Tony Mitchell from North Texas.
Dunno. From what I've seen and heard, I don't think Burke would be a "reach" if he went as high as, say, 12.
Good percentages and improved decision-making... I like.
I've stated this many times, but most (if not all) of Rondo's 'quirkiness' stems from a blazing competitive fire. I've seen it time and time again from HS, through college, and in the pros. He's not a thug, he's not a prima donna (though he does come off like it at times), he is a relentless fighter.
I'll concede that he probably has too much of it and it's too difficult to surround him with enough others like him. I just hate it when people who don't know (not talking to you cowhide), mischaracterize him. I, for one, can appreciate the fire and the inability to dial it back a notch. I've been there before in my life .. and, luckily, was finally able to chill and let a little mediocrity/relaxation into my life.
The Celtics were a perfect team for Jonny, having KG, Pierce, and Ray .. those 3 were about as susceptible to giving it everything as could have been assembled ..
I was excited what Rondo could do for the Jazz youngsters, but I'm honestly not sure how they would respond to his level of demanding everything from them, everything.
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I don't think he is the consensus no. 1 pg by a long shot. The thing that concerns me the most is his inability to finish at the rim. His height coupled with his lack of vertical leap is worrying. He's not quick or fast when he gets into the lane or physical neither which would have helped. If he's having problems now in college it can only get worse in the NBA. By comparison Lillard did not have this problem in college.
Unless he can develop a deadly floater it's hard to see him being more than just an average player at best at the next level.
Freakazoid = Matt Harpring. Just ask him - he won't deny it.
My Dream Draft '13: Trey 'Black Jesus' Burke & Glen Robinson III
My "back to reality" Draft '13 Dennis Schroeder aka "German General" & Giannis Adetokunbo aka "Greek Freak"
This.
Sorry guys, but Burke is NOT the consensus #1 PG in this draft. Chad Ford weighs the opinions of NBA scouts when forming his Big Board and Burke is currently ranked #17. MCW is at #8 and Smart is at #9.
I definitely like Burke (more than any PG in last year's draft, outside of Lillard), but scouts seem to like others better than him, and I don't think we should just brush that off like it's nothing.
It also depends on the team..
My list is;
1) Burke
1a) MCW
3) Smart
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Smart playing right now on ESPN2
MCW will playing Louisville at 2 on ESPN
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