Salty loving the Norm Chow hiring...me hating it from the get go.
I'd like to see the stats to back that up please.You ask what changed when they joined the Pac 12? The offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinator, for starters. I think the defensive coordinator actually changed a year or so before joining. But the defense was actually worse even before joining the Pac 12, and has gotten better with time. The offense has consistently gotten worse every year.
But you are trying to downplay the importance of talent and you mentioned the last 2 years of recruiting like every team out there should be great after 2 years of recruiting.I'm also not saying Utah needed to "turn around the program" in 2 years.
Look, it's fine if you want to blame the coaches. They are most at blame. But to claim a lack of talent hasn't been a big factor for the Utes versus the Pac12 is just haterism or something. And I get that. If I remember right you're the guy that blames Sloan for everything, too. So no surprises here.
BYU 1984 National Champs.
I'm not one to pile on but you have to admit, Salty, that you were very high on the Utes before the reality of the Pac12 set in. So you'll have to excuse most folks if they don't buy into your opinions.
BYU 1984 National Champs.
They got worse this season. That is why I'm not buying into the whole Pac 12 talent adjustment argument. If it was just a matter of adjusting to superior talent, Utah would have sucked last season and gotten better this season, not the other way around.
Star is being rumored as having #1 overall pick talent... or at least Mel Kiper thinks so!
If the draft were tomorrow, how many guys would be in play as a No. 1 pick?
Kiper: On my current Big Board, I see five that make sense, with the possibility of seven if we include a quarterback craze factoring in. The five guys I see with value in that range are :
• Jarvis Jones, a brilliant, relentless pass-rusher out of Georgia;
• Manti Te'o, the prototype middle linebacker out of Notre Dame (a very high standing for an interior linebacker, I admit);
• Star Lotulelei, the best defensive tackle in the class, who plays at Utah;
• Luke Joeckel, the best left tackle in the class, of Texas A&M; and
• Damontre Moore, also of Texas A&M, and a rival to Jones as the best current pass-rusher on my board.
You're a ****ing joke, the Utes suck and you would have lost your FSU/Utah bet if you weren't such a bitch about it. Now go fight Conan.
By the way, I sent that from my laptop you tool.
Last year Colorado BEAT Utah. Even though they sucked, they were clearly better than this year's Colorado team. Incidentally, Colorado just set school futility records for not winning a single home game and only winning 1 game overall. Clearly, they were much worse than last season.
In fact, the only game they won this year was at Washington State. That's how bad Washington State was this year. Clearly, they were much worse than they were last year.
UCLA won the division last year. Not sure they were all that much better this year. They just played crappier teams this year.