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If I had a vote, I'd vote for Peterson for MVP. Peyton and Brady and Rodgers have been great. So has Megatron. But Peterson's in an entirely different stratosphere and without him, the Vikings would be 3-11 or something.
How many rings has NE won without their camera crew, again?
Playing well is priority #1 and nothing outside of that is really even close. If you're hoping someone else ****s up, then you don't deserve the break.
Eh! Not a good argument really. Unless you will say Eli is the best. Then we can agree.
You cant deny Brady is freaking awesome.
Sure. He's great. I believe the camera crew argument in tandem with the Matt Cassel argument takes him out of the "best ever" conversation pretty well, however.
Playing well is priority #1 and nothing outside of that is really even close. If you're hoping someone else ****s up, then you don't deserve the break.
I don't. He's had an average supporting cast during his career unlike Manning who had two HOF'ers during his entire career basically in Harrison and Wayne.
Randy Moss? Their TEs the last couple of years? Those three players are all better than anything Manning had in Indy.
And he's had Bellicheck.
Playing well is priority #1 and nothing outside of that is really even close. If you're hoping someone else ****s up, then you don't deserve the break.
He had Moss for a year and a half. He's had these tight ends for two and a half years. For the majority of his career, he's had guys like Branch and Welker who he makes look much better than they are.
That's what a QB is supposed to do. And he's great. But I don't think you can call someone the best ever when their team did fine without them and they've never been able to get it done without cheating being involved.
Playing well is priority #1 and nothing outside of that is really even close. If you're hoping someone else ****s up, then you don't deserve the break.
His defense was far from average. Not shockingly once the defense went so did the Superbowls. It's like he had to deal with what Manning did his whole career.
It started with Earl [Watson], Randy [Foye] and Marvin [Williams]–the veteran guys. I thought the young guys did a good job of following their lead getting us off to a good start. - referring to the Jazz/Bobcats game on 3/1/13
Earl, Randy, and Marvin started the first quarter 0-3, scored a whopping zero points, and finished with a turnover in the first quarter.
Your head coach of the Jazz ladies and gentlemen.
Oi vey. They've gotten to two SB's since the scandal. But I guess that doesn't matter. Only that they didn't win it.
They made the SB last year with a horrid defense. I guess that doesn't count though.
Isn't that what the GOAT do?
At any rate, he's really good.
Playing well is priority #1 and nothing outside of that is really even close. If you're hoping someone else ****s up, then you don't deserve the break.
I dont remember anyone saying he is the best ever. The argument was him or manning. Which turned into is Brady any good.
Brady is freaking good. Best ever. Probably not.
I may have slightly understated the offensive talent around him too.
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