I obviously don't think it's a black (pun) and white scenario, but I'm just not of the opinion that people who grow up in impoverished areas don't have their agency. I'm sure I'm going against the grain (which in turn makes me a bigot), but I just don't like the excuse that high crime or poor education are results of poverty. I believe that crime and poor education are results of poor choices. Case in point - I have a friend who grew up in Brooklyn. He went to a public high school which was about 60% black and about 30% white (mostly Jewish of course). They all came from rather humble neighborhoods, but guess who had a higher drop out rate.
Last I heard about 70% of African American children were born to unmarried women, but last I checked African Americans don't have a monopoly on growing up in poverty.
Crediting every human with their agency does not mean we can judge everyone by the same standards or expect remotely similar outcomes of choice.
I guess to sum up my feelings, do I think that poverty/malnourishment could in turn result in more unmarried women? Sure. But I don't think it should. And I know what the common response to that is - "well that's easy for you to say", and you know what? You're probably right.
Okay, margodydek must be an alias of carolinajazz.
Yes One Brow, you can say it now. After the last few posts, I don't see how there could be any doubt.
Let me see if I can explain myself. Do I think that one day black people just up and decided it was against their best interest to get married? Absolutely not. Do I think that they are currently in their situation as a result of discrimination? Absolutely. So I do think racism has caused a good chunk of blacks' present problems, I still think only black action (behavior) is going to provide a solution.
Last edited by margodydek; 10-25-2012 at 02:54 PM.
I'm also going out on a limb by suggesting that these Jewish communities you allude to don't have a severe male:female imbalance. There aren't enough viable men in many African American communities due to death and incarceration. This leaves the marriage viable men with plenty options and thus less urgency to tie down a marriage partner down.
The first page of this thread... I can relate to the desire to help those in need but I have a hard time understanding the hubris that comes with these views that unconditional assistance = good or unconditional tough love = good. Why can't we, as a nation, study the problem through instead of coming up with some fairy dust that a huge new voting block on one side or the other will magically fix our problems?
Go ahead and free this voting block or expand restricting it. Either way you are not helping the political party that your innitiative is meant to.