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    Quote Originally Posted by MoTown16 View Post
    Rebounding is up a bit, but I'm not all that surprised by his 13/8/3 average. What is a bit surprising is his shooting percentage. Expect that to come down a bit. And let's see how many games he misses. AK is a decent player, just not worth $10M/per.
    Did you see AK tonight. 18 points and 4 steals, but the stats don't show the whole story. A bunch of crucial game-saving plays in the fourth quarter. He was worth every bit of his ten million tonight and then some. He's playing very much under control and as well as I've ever seen him play.

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    Lots of commentary on Kevin Love recently.

    My take: there's more similarities to the situation with Chris Bosh in Toronto than Kevin Garnett in Minnesota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatermoog View Post
    Lots of commentary on Kevin Love recently.

    My take: there's more similarities to the situation with Chris Bosh in Toronto than Kevin Garnett in Minnesota.
    I think it will be pretty simple with Love when contract is up. If they are a contender at that point he will stay if not he is probably as good as gone. If TWolves made some better draft picks they might be contenders right now.

    By the way if anybody has something they want to say to John Hollinger let me know as I will probably see him around town.

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    Think Love's gone even if they're a decent team by then (which I doubt). Love is actively seeking the spotlight like Bosh/Howard (doing quirky videos on the side, trying to increase visibility while on Olympic Team, etc.). Get sense he's already setting Minny up for the fall.

    And like Bosh/Howard/Deron, not sure he's so good that you need to alter your plans to suit him.
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    Great double double by AK in winning game on the road - 21/11/2/1/1, 10-16 FG, only 1TO. I would like for that AK hater who said that M.Williams will have greater impact on Jazz then AK on Wolves to come out of the closet and eat some crow. Who was it? Thriller? Wes Mantooth? Come out! I think it was the same dude who said that Hayward is already 100 times better player then AK... what a moron, Hayward will never, ever be as good as AK, period.
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    Not time to call it just yet, but the case for Jazz Misuse is at an all-time high. He's been almost as good as '03/'04 with eight more years on him. And that doesn't even count the fact that he has a bit more wear and tear on him than the average bear, considering his pro career started in his early teens and he's played quite a few summers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatermoog View Post
    Not time to call it just yet, but the case for Jazz Misuse is at an all-time high. He's been almost as good as '03/'04 with eight more years on him. And that doesn't even count the fact that he has a bit more wear and tear on him than the average bear, considering his pro career started in his early teens and he's played quite a few summers.
    It would seem that the case for Slacker AK is also at an all-time high. Or am I missing something?
    The word you are looking for is very probably "complement", not "compliment". As in "Favors and Kanter will likely complement each other nicely". Although... depending on how impressive a given play is, they may compliment each other nicely as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colton View Post
    It would seem that the case for Slacker AK is also at an all-time high. Or am I missing something?
    Yes, you are missing a lot. Totally misfiring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatermoog View Post
    Not time to call it just yet, but the case for Jazz Misuse is at an all-time high. He's been almost as good as '03/'04 with eight more years on him. And that doesn't even count the fact that he has a bit more wear and tear on him than the average bear, considering his pro career started in his early teens and he's played quite a few summers.
    Take away all the games missed due to injury and he has less wear and tear than the average bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    Take away all the games missed due to injury and he has less wear and tear than the average bear.
    How about you add all the games he played during every summer for his Russia national team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by colton View Post
    It would seem that the case for Slacker AK is also at an all-time high. Or am I missing something?
    Well, obviously.

    Actually, if you look earlier in the thread, I mentioned that this was going to be the forever unsolved argument no matter how he plays this year, but the evidence is mounting for a compelling argument against it all being slacking/effort. Personally, I viewed it as a spectrum, with the percentage of decline due to role and due to effort increasing in favor of the latter over his career at Utah.

    Anyways, two things:

    Holy crap, Ricky Rubio. I have seen the light. A seasoned lineup with Shved, AK, and Rubio will be incredible. He made Derrick Williams look like a #2 pick tonight...wait, he was?

    Second, AK's on such a role right now that he's been the key player in games where he disappeared for entire halves. Thought he was pretty worthless for most of the night--effort was there--but he played a huge role in the fourth quarter and took over in OT.

    And I know old Jazzfanz will laugh at this, but he's really emerging as the vocal leader on the court.
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    Oh, on the negative side, he's missed at least his last fourteen three-point FGAs.
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    I've been watching Minny and AK is playing better than ever because he's doing it without as much effort as he needed in the past. He's been making the key plays for them when they need it and rarely looking for his shot. Tonight, like Tater said he took over the beginning of the OT and pretty much sealed the game for Minny.


    I think my days as a Jazz fan are numbered. I went back to watch the Jazz game and it seemed very boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatermoog View Post

    Second, AK's on such a role right now that he's been the key player in games where he disappeared for entire halves. Thought he was pretty worthless for most of the night--effort was there--but he played a huge role in the fourth quarter and took over in OT.

    And I know old Jazzfanz will laugh at this, but he's really emerging as the vocal leader on the court.
    Well he is one of the oldest guys in Minny, obviously he has reputation and they respect him a lot. And he leads by example diving for lose balls and defending everybody. Another double double tonight and sealing the win in overtime.
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    AK has been good, one of the best, everywhere he's been except for that stretch in Utah from about 2006-2010. Tater's comment about misuse seems to be pretty much spot on. Many jazzfanz - colton is not alone - claimed he was a slacker, but that is simply not AK. From the time he was 18, he has made a living being an effort player. Blocks, steals, passing, offensive rebounding - that's what he does. Those are effort stats. Misuse, indeed.

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