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    While I want to trade Jefferson (and Foye as Burks needs playing time), to start a thread like this as if he's the reason for our 1-2 start is just silly. Jefferson hit a few big shots down the stretch last night. He was a 0 for the game as far as +/- goes while Favors was a -14. A far from perfect stat I know but somewhat telling. Two rebounds in 23 minutes for Favors is an absolute joke for someone with his athleticism and size. Hell, he and Kanter had a combined four rebounds in over 34 minutes. That's unacceptable. There was more than one play where Favors and Kanter even stood around while a Spur drove for a layup or an easier basket. The Manu one in the 2nd quarter stands out. Now in his third year, Favors still has no offensive moves. Sorry but the longer it goes on, the tougher it is for me to stomach it. And on and on and on. In brief, this game and our start can not be pinned on Jeff. It should be pinned on Corbin first and foremost. He decided to leave Favors on the bench in the waning seconds of the NO game. He's decided to keep Burks on the bench in games where he could clearly be utilized and utilized well. He's decided to pull hot hands (like Hayward last night) at the most questionable of moments. Sorry, I want F'Al gone but our start needs to be pinned on Corbin and the FO almost equally as much for both extending him when unproven and building a roster that goes 11 deep thinking that would work.

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    For the record too, had we won that NO game, we'd be 2-1 and loving life for a solid start and some newly found resiliency versus one of our biggest foes in San Antonio. So relax. Breathe. The world's not falling. Not yet.

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    To give Favors credit on the rebounding, Spurs shot what 80% last night? There weren't a whole lot of defensive boards to be had.

    One poster asked "Do these guys ever miss?". No, because Al Jefferson fire Corbin FIRE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth View Post
    For the record too, had we won that NO game, we'd be 2-1 and loving life for a solid start and some newly found resiliency versus one of our biggest foes in San Antonio. So relax. Breathe. The world's not falling. Not yet.
    Will let us know when we should start to get upset? I nominate you to be the official poster on jazz fanz thats tells us when it ok to be upset and when we should just relax.

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    Missed the game last night but from the box score it looks like favors and kanter were useless last night. 6 and 2 in 25 minutes ? Not going to cut it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennykyle View Post
    Missed the game last night but from the box score it looks like favors and kanter were useless last night. 6 and 2 in 25 minutes ? Not going to cut it .

    Kanter didnt look to good, but Favors did. Favors definitely needed more minutes. The box score doesnt show it, but he had a good impact on the game. Favors should have played starter minutes last night.

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    Big Al and Milsap failed to box out time and time again in the final minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    To give Favors credit on the rebounding, Spurs shot what 80% last night? There weren't a whole lot of defensive boards to be had.
    Uh, no, try again.

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    Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. I suspect that Corbin doesn't seem to know when to use certain players sometimes. Jefferson sucks when he is being overused in the wrong situations (like when defense is on the line).

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    Quote Originally Posted by salo View Post
    i actually think al has played some good defense here and there.

    still struggles with the pick and roll but he's no orphan in that respect.
    i think most of our guards defend the pick and roll just as poorly as al.

    it'll never be his strength, but his real strength (offense) can be so good.
    even better since he's found a willingness to pass out of double teams.

    i do agree that he ought to get to the line more often than he does but hey, we've got plenty of bangers elsewhere.
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    Jefferson's trade value and Millsap's trade value probably aren't going to get much higher at this point. To make a trade, the Jazz just need the right situation to arise with another team reaching for the panic button.

    BTW, Mo Williams looked pretty good in a couple of these games, but yeah I'd like to see more Burks and less Tinsley and Foye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth View Post
    Uh, no, try again.


    You're right. I looked back and SAS only shot 74% in the first half. Unfortunately, this journey also brought a whole lot of fail on the part of Millsap--everything from pick and roll defense to help defending the rim from Tony Assassin.

    I am terrified other posters will discover this as well & start calling for his head along with Jeffy's & Corbin's. That ain't right mang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    You're right. I looked back and SAS only shot 74% in the first half. Unfortunately, this journey also brought a whole lot of fail on the part of Millsap--everything from pick and roll defense to help defending the rim from Tony Assassin.

    I am terrified other posters will discover this as well & start calling for his head along with Jeffy's & Corbin's. That ain't right mang.
    Hence the word, half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth View Post
    Hence the word, half.
    I don't know if I ever heard the story as to how you became a Jazz fan. NJ? Non-Mormon? What's the connection.
    #dumptruckin

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    I don't know if I ever heard the story as to how you became a Jazz fan. NJ? Non-Mormon? What's the connection.
    The bulge in John's short shorts.

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