Are you ready?

[Gameface]

Just to be clear: the states goals of the New Black Panther Party have little in common with what the original Black Panther Party was trying to achieve. It's like Stormfront claiming they are resurrecting the Bull Moose party.

Or like the way the Neo Nazis are dragging down the name of the original Nazis.

[One Brow]

If some of Romneys white supporters are voting for him because he is white does that make them racist?

In any state where whites are the oppressed group (de facto, not necessarily de jure), voting for a black politician against a white politician because he is black would be a continuation of that racism. In any state where blacks are the oppressed group (de facto, not necessarily de jure), voting for a white politician against a black politician because he is white would be a continuation of that racism.

[One Brow]

Couldn't help it brow lol.

All in good fun.

[One Brow]

I don't like Al Gore, but if he won the popular vote he should have been our president. I'm all for this going both ways.

And beyond that there should have been an effort to count every vote cast in Fl. Period. If someone tried to vote for Gore it should have counted. If someone tried to vote for Bush it should have counted. The way things went down was just bad.

As it happened, depending on the counting standards, either Gore or Bush could have won. Howeve, IIRC, Gore led the popular vote by about 500,000.

[Stoked]

In any state where whites are the oppressed group (de facto, not necessarily de jure), voting for a black politician against a white politician because he is black would be a continuation of that racism. In any state where blacks are the oppressed group (de facto, not necessarily de jure), voting for a white politician against a black politician because he is white would be a continuation of that racism.

I already know your stance. I want Candrews.

[One Brow]

Is it OK to have one preference over the other and still not be racist?

On another day, I'll discuss that.

[Gameface]

OK, A black person is voting for Obama because he's black. And you're asking if that action, in and of itself, makes him a racist? I don't know. They could be. I haven't really thought about it.

When I was single, I dated a couple of black girls (one was bi-racial actually) and I can say in general I preferred dating white girls. Does that make me racist? I don't think I am. Is it OK to have one preference over the other and still not be racist?

I'd say there are two ways to define racism. To just take the literal meaning of the word I would describe racism as distinguishing between races. So any acknowledgment or recognition of differences between various racial groups would be racism. No negative connotation explicitly implied. However, I think the typical usage is that racism means associating a race with specific negative traits, and/or acting on racial bias.

I'm not too hot on blondes. Doesn't mean I wouldn't hire one if they were qualified for a job I was offering, but also doesn't mean I would date someone I wasn't interested in.

[One Brow]

Or like the way the Neo Nazis are dragging down the name of the original Nazis.

I don't recall saying anyone had their name dragged down. On the other hand, I don't recall hearing the New Black Panthers offering pancake breakfasts.

I'm sure there are NeoNazis out there that have very different views from thr original Nazis.

[Stoked]

On another day, I'll discuss that.

Candrew that means that you are racist.

There Brow we covered that.

Candrew I took your earlier post to mean that in and of itself that does not make a person racist but that the person may be one. And that it can go both ways. Fair enough.

[PearlWatson]

The righties are ****ing high as kites. Obama wins and it's not even close really.

Uh oh! This bloke hasn't girded his loins for defeat.

[Revolution 9]

Are we far off from seeing some early returns?

[Stoked]

Are we far off from seeing some early returns?

2-3 Hours I believe. We are getting close.

[Stoked]

Are we far off from seeing some early returns?

3 Hours 13 Minutes...

[SaltyDawg]

The righties are ****ing high as kites. Obama wins and it's not even close really.

This.

It is close. You can piss and moan all you want but it is. Simple fact.

I can see one candidate win all the toss ups but I doubt it. E ven if they did it would be by close margins.

I say Romney wins, CO, FL, NC, VA, NH and OH.

I guarantee Romney loses at least 2 or 3 of those states.

[Stoked]

This.


I guarantee Romney loses at least 2 or 3 of those states.

We will see. Either way it will be close.