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    Al Jefferson FTs

    Fun Facts:

    Al Jefferson has attempted whole 6 FTs this entire season. He has 2 games where he did not attempt a single FT (SA & NO).

    He has never attempted more than 2 in a single game this year.

    In the Jazz game alone, Kobe Bryant attempted nearly 6 times as many FTs than Al Jefferson has this entire year.

    Lets put this into perspective. Tonight, Boom Bitches shot 4 FTs. Faried, 10.

    Jefferson is averaging a grand 1.7 FT attempts per game.

    Comparable bigs?

    Tim Duncan at age 80 brings his walker into the arena and averages 4.8 attempts per game
    Marc Gasol averages 5.6
    Zebo 5
    LaMarcus Aldridge 2.4
    Luis Scola 2.7
    Blake Griffin 5.5
    D Jordan 2.2
    David Lee 3
    Carl Landry 4.5
    DeMarcus Cousin 4.3
    Dwight Howard 11.3
    Pau Gasol 2.7
    Kaveman 2.5
    Wright 2.5
    Boom Bitches 2.5
    Omer Asik 2.2
    Nikola Pekovic 4.6
    A Davis 6
    Ibaka 2.8
    K Perkins 1
    Nick Collison 1.3
    Sideshow Bob 1

    And that's just from the western conference. Luis Scola averages more FT attempts and all he does is rebound and shoot jumpers. Boom Bitches for crying out loud is averaging more FT attempts and he's never posted up in his life! I'm pretty sure Sideshow Bob (who is probably never used offensively) is the only starting C/PF with worse FT attempt avgs than Big Al.

    this is coming from our #1 post option??? The anchor of our offense? The focal point? And he has the exact same amount of FT attempts as ****ing Nick Collison???

    No wonder why we have a losing record.

    Until he is traded or benched, this team isn't moving anywhere.
    Lakers Suck.

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    2 of those 6 are from a team intentionally fouling at the end of the game.

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    ... another reason to ship him out of town! I've got plenty of those, by the way.

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    Come on, give him a break. He is so busy to shot his most reliable 15-17 foot jumper which he hit "reasonably" at high percentage. Stats don`t lie.

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    And he was having a hard time with stomach viruses;




    Fortunately team doctor Gary Briggs identified the stomach virus. But he said "The virus mutating with every game Big Al played and that`s the matter of concern."


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    It is obvious that Al not getting to the line is why we have lost each game so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpjazz View Post
    It is obvious that Al not getting to the line is why we have lost each game so far.
    Do you think that his lack of free throw attempts is NOT an issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenofCapua View Post
    Come on, give him a break. He is so busy to shot his most reliable 15-17 foot jumper which he hit "reasonably" at high percentage. Stats don`t lie.
    Stats also don't lie about the fact that players that are active in the paint tend to get fouled more. You don't always get fouled in the act of shooting - you get foul going for loose balls, you get fouled on put backs, you get fouled being aggressive. Karl Malone was basically a mid range jump shooter the last 4 years of his career and he spent plenty of time on the line.

    Which leads me to my next point - pump fakes. Al Jefferson pump fakes so god damn much that he's turned it into a useless exercise. NOBODY bites on his pump fakes anymore. The fact that he's never fouled is a testament to that. Almost every single ****ing shot that he takes leads with wasted movement - even if he's wide open. And the few times he gets the defender out of position, he uses that opportunity to weave around him, instead of taking it hard to the basket.

    I don't know if he's always been this way or if he just started playing like this after he blew his ACL. But when you're on the road and you're playing from behind, you need opportunities to score with the clock stopped. Big Al is a "go-to" guy who doesn't give you that opportunity. That's a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishonjazz View Post
    Do you think that his lack of free throw attempts is NOT an issue?
    Scropjazz is good at playing devil's advocate. I'm sure he's not unreasonable enough to see it as not being one of multiple issues hurting the Jazz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by candrew View Post
    Stats also don't lie about the fact that players that are active in the paint tend to get fouled more. You don't always get fouled in the act of shooting - you get foul going for loose balls, you get fouled on put backs, you get fouled being aggressive. Karl Malone was basically a mid range jump shooter the last 4 years of his career and he spent plenty of time on the line.

    Which leads me to my next point - pump fakes. Al Jefferson pump fakes so god damn much that he's turned it into a useless exercise. NOBODY bites on his pump fakes anymore. The fact that he's never fouled is a testament to that. Almost every single ****ing shot that he takes leads with wasted movement - even if he's wide open. And the few times he gets the defender out of position, he uses that opportunity to weave around him, instead of taking it hard to the basket.

    I don't know if he's always been this way or if he just started playing like this after he blew his ACL. But when you're on the road and you're playing from behind, you need opportunities to score with the clock stopped. Big Al is a "go-to" guy who doesn't give you that opportunity. That's a problem.
    Good post.

    Al just isnt active enough. He doesnt hustle one bit. Thats a huge problem. His lazyness screws all of our rotations up, offensively and defensively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by candrew View Post
    Stats also don't lie about the fact that players that are active in the paint tend to get fouled more. You don't always get fouled in the act of shooting - you get foul going for loose balls, you get fouled on put backs, you get fouled being aggressive. Karl Malone was basically a mid range jump shooter the last 4 years of his career and he spent plenty of time on the line.

    Which leads me to my next point - pump fakes. Al Jefferson pump fakes so god damn much that he's turned it into a useless exercise. NOBODY bites on his pump fakes anymore. The fact that he's never fouled is a testament to that. Almost every single ****ing shot that he takes leads with wasted movement - even if he's wide open. And the few times he gets the defender out of position, he uses that opportunity to weave around him, instead of taking it hard to the basket.

    I don't know if he's always been this way or if he just started playing like this after he blew his ACL. But when you're on the road and you're playing from behind, you need opportunities to score with the clock stopped. Big Al is a "go-to" guy who doesn't give you that opportunity. That's a problem.
    It was a sarcasm candrew. We`re at the same page.

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    http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../okurme01.html
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    Something haunting....

    Memo's rookie year he matched the avg of FT attempts that Big Al is attempting... His rookie year...

    Memo... Known for his outside shot and not post up game routinely averaged between 3-5 FTs per game as a Jazz player. In fact, in 4 years he averaged nearly 5 FTs per game as a Jazz.

    In just his second year in the Jazz's offense shot over twice as many FTs as Al Jefferson did in his second year in the Jazz's offense. This is freaking Memo for crying out loud.

    Compare that to Al, who has never averaged more than 3.5 with the Jazz and has been going steadily down ever since.

    Folks.

    Al Jefferson is on pace to shoot about as many FTs as Nick Collison.

    That's great. If Al Jefferson were played 10 mins and never ever ever had a play run for him like Collison.

    This is our #1 option. Our #1 post guy. And he's playing ahead of Favors and Kanter....


    Lakers Suck.

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    Jefferson's lack of free throw has a lot to do with reputation. His offense is built on avoiding contact and a soft touch, so even when he is fouled he has reputation of being a post player that is constantly moving to avoid contact rather than embracing it. Jefferson's game is modeled after McHale. How many times did McHale get to the line compared to Malone?

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    You just noticed his lack of FTA's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey32 View Post
    Jefferson's lack of free throw has a lot to do with reputation. His offense is built on avoiding contact and a soft touch, so even when he is fouled he has reputation of being a post player that is constantly moving to avoid contact rather than embracing it. Jefferson's game is modeled after McHale. How many times did McHale get to the line compared to Malone?
    Career FGA/FTA

    Malone: 1.987
    McHale: 2.708
    Jefferson: 3.901


    Career FG%

    Malone: .516
    McHale: .554
    Jefferson: .500


    Career TS%
    Malone: .577
    McHale: .605
    Jefferson: .531


    Malone and McHale also happened to be competent team players and defenders.
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