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    Question Jefferson/Millsap: Expirings or Trade Chips?

    Should the Jazz trade Big Al and Sapman for better fitting pieces or let them come off the books and just pocket the savings?
    Way I see it, with Kanter and Favors, Big Al and Sap are luxuries, not necessities.
    I think the jazz should trade them for more help in the back court.

    what do you guys think

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    I have always predicted we'd just allow Al to expire. Sap I figured we'd trade at some point .. rather than overpay.
    #dumptruckin

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
    Should the Jazz trade Big Al and Sapman for better fitting pieces or let them come off the books and just pocket the savings?
    Way I see it, with Kanter and Favors, Big Al and Sap are luxuries, not necessities.
    I think the jazz should trade them for more help in the back court.

    what do you guys think
    Not sure if i should say welcome back or if I should be worried.
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    So I was very mad about the game, but I wasn't going to vent here, because you guys all feel the same way. However, Ty's postgame interview got my blood boiling. On why he let Trey and Gordon play while having bad games, "You gotta let them battle through it because that's what you gotta do." Really are you kidding me. You have to balls to say that when you pulled Alec after 16 minutes against LAC and Kanter got 19 minutes toinght?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangello View Post
    Not sure if i should say welcome back or if I should be worried.
    I am shocked they let him back in. Totally shocked. Cannot imagine how short that leash is ..
    #dumptruckin

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    I am shocked they let him back in. Totally shocked. Cannot imagine how short that leash is ..
    I'll refer back to this post as soon as he is gone again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    So I was very mad about the game, but I wasn't going to vent here, because you guys all feel the same way. However, Ty's postgame interview got my blood boiling. On why he let Trey and Gordon play while having bad games, "You gotta let them battle through it because that's what you gotta do." Really are you kidding me. You have to balls to say that when you pulled Alec after 16 minutes against LAC and Kanter got 19 minutes toinght?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    I have always predicted we'd just allow Al to expire. Sap I figured we'd trade at some point .. rather than overpay.
    hmmmm interesting, any reason why the different thoughts on both of them?

    fyi for everyone, salary amount left on their contracts:
    big al: $15,000,000
    sapman: $8,603,633

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    Keep millsap.

    Trade al for something nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
    hmmmm interesting, any reason why the different thoughts on both of them?

    fyi for everyone, salary amount left on their contracts:
    big al: $15,000,000
    sapman: $8,603,633
    For one thing, there's no way Big Al demands that kind of pay check if he continues to play the way he's been playing.... and that goes for Millsap as well.
    I say we let them continue to play, and see if they can pull their heads out of their asses. But at the same time, neither of them should be receiving more than 25 minutes a game.
    It's to early to start talking a trade, unless the FO has already put feelers out there for both players.
    The only players that should be off the table is Hayward, Favors, and Kanter IMO.
    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hack View Post
    Keep millsap.

    Trade al for nothing.
    Fixed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    So I was very mad about the game, but I wasn't going to vent here, because you guys all feel the same way. However, Ty's postgame interview got my blood boiling. On why he let Trey and Gordon play while having bad games, "You gotta let them battle through it because that's what you gotta do." Really are you kidding me. You have to balls to say that when you pulled Alec after 16 minutes against LAC and Kanter got 19 minutes toinght?

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    Why dont you want something nice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
    hmmmm interesting, any reason why the different thoughts on both of them?

    fyi for everyone, salary amount left on their contracts:
    big al: $15,000,000
    sapman: $8,603,633
    Because I have never felt anyone would give us much for Al .. and we'd likely be able to do no more than swap bad contracts.
    I always felt Paul would be a decent trade chip.
    #dumptruckin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hack View Post
    Why dont you want something nice?
    Because a bad, bad man.. heartless and cold as ice.
    #dumptruckin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hack View Post
    Why dont you want something nice?
    I just don't want Al.
    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    So I was very mad about the game, but I wasn't going to vent here, because you guys all feel the same way. However, Ty's postgame interview got my blood boiling. On why he let Trey and Gordon play while having bad games, "You gotta let them battle through it because that's what you gotta do." Really are you kidding me. You have to balls to say that when you pulled Alec after 16 minutes against LAC and Kanter got 19 minutes toinght?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangello View Post
    I just don't want Al.
    We should've offered Al for Iguodala or Danny Granger years ago. Obviously Granger is hurt now though.
    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilencer1313 View Post
    We should've offered Al for Iguodala or Danny Granger years ago.
    Years? 2 years ago (the minimum for "years"), the Jazz were 5-3, and had a big man rotation of Al-Sap-Elson-Fesenko-Evans(-AK). Were you really buying on Elson/Fesenko holding down the fort at the 5 at that point?
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