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    Hayward: the new CJ!

    Deja vu -- watching Gordon brick wide-open shots; screaming at TV. GH = CJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcb1820 View Post
    Deja vu -- watching Gordon brick wide-open shots; screaming at TV. GH = CJ.
    Not even close. Hayward brings so many other things to the game. CJ has no Basketball IQ. Hayward does

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben10 View Post
    Not even close. Hayward brings so many other things to the game. CJ has no Basketball IQ. Hayward does
    yeah he is better then CJ... But we could have had Paul George, Kawhi Leonard and Jonas Valanciunas from last two drafts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
    yeah he is better then CJ... But we could have had Paul George, Kawhi Leonard and Jonas Valanciunas from last two drafts.
    Hindsight is 20/20. We also could have had any player that is worse than Hayward picked before him. With respect to the Valanciunas crowning, there is a lot of time to see what he and Kanter will become. We could have had Kenneth Faried as well. But let's not stop there. We could have had Manu Ginobili. In two years we'll know much more, but playing the game of could have had is mindless because 30 teams are trying to find talent everywhere in the world. There are just too many variables to nail it. Anyone who is reasonable can see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
    yeah he is better then CJ... But we could have had Paul George, Kawhi Leonard and Jonas Valanciunas from last two drafts.

    Of the three players you mentioned: two weren't even in the same draft, and the third is shooting a worse FG%, and only outscoring Hayward by 0.2PPG. All while playing 7mpg more.

    You and I, along with every poster here (should) know that it is WAY to early to determine who will have the better career between George and Hayward. People are too busy ragging on Hayward, and not realizing that he is averaging 14.1 PPG even though he's shooting 26% from three. What happens when his percentages increase?

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    The sad thing is: the Jazz are playing guys who might not make the team, and certainly won't make the rotation, and they're killing real Lakers players. This is a disaster for LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalamon View Post
    Of the three players you mentioned: two weren't even in the same draft, and the third is shooting a worse FG%, and only outscoring Hayward by 0.2PPG. All while playing 7mpg more.

    You and I, along with every poster here (should) know that it is WAY to early to determine who will have the better career between George and Hayward. People are too busy ragging on Hayward, and not realizing that he is averaging 14.1 PPG even though he's shooting 26% from three. What happens when his percentages increase?
    Which they invariably will after, what, the all-star break? 2 straight years Gordon's been a slow starter but absolutely dominant as the season enters the stretch run. Well until the playoffs that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers View Post
    Which they invariably will after, what, the all-star break? 2 straight years Gordon's been a slow starter but absolutely dominant as the season enters the stretch run. Well until the playoffs that is.
    Only one playoffs, which was his first. But hopefully he gets out of this slump and gets his stroke back, quick. He's got so many other pieces, he's a 40% three point shot away from being a key-cog to this team going forward

    Quote Originally Posted by fallenchicken View Post
    The sad thing is: the Jazz are playing guys who might not make the team, and certainly won't make the rotation, and they're killing real Lakers players. This is a disaster for LA.

    I love it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhi View Post
    I thought Dal was black for a long time. He was one of the people I was referencing when I told colleagues I have several black friends.

    I still like him irredgardless.
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    He struggles with his shot still. No one can deny that. It just isnt all there. But his defense is great. So that makes him better than CJ imo. Plus other things he does. He is just smarter. But he really needs to become a better scorer. Both driving and shooting.

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    People are forgetting when he stuffed the **** out of Derozan end of the 1st half... that was sick

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    I like Hayward. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalamon View Post
    Of the three players you mentioned: two weren't even in the same draft, and the third is shooting a worse FG%, and only outscoring Hayward by 0.2PPG. All while playing 7mpg more.
    Leonard and Valanciunas were drafted after Kanter and Burks - not sure what you trying to say here. Check Goerge's rebounding numbers and other stats.
    Exum = Biggest bust in Jazz history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
    Leonard and Valanciunas were drafted after Kanter and Burks - not sure what you trying to say here. Check Goerge's rebounding numbers and other stats.
    a) thought this thread was about Hayward

    b) LOL @ rebounding. What, Hayward is supposed to average 8 per on a roster with Jefferson, Millsap, Favors, Marvin Williams and Kanter? Only thing I'll give George a nod on for the time being is assists; but we know historically how that stat will play out (hint: in Hayward's favour)

    Quote Originally Posted by fallenchicken View Post
    The sad thing is: the Jazz are playing guys who might not make the team, and certainly won't make the rotation, and they're killing real Lakers players. This is a disaster for LA.

    I love it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhi View Post
    I thought Dal was black for a long time. He was one of the people I was referencing when I told colleagues I have several black friends.

    I still like him irredgardless.
    *confirmed*

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    Lets get real...we could have had Dominique Wilkins. Anyone know his first name was Jacques? I had no clue and he was my favorite dunker back in the day.

    That being said, I like Haywood....and Alex.

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    Hayward lacks aggressiveness. Change that and there is no longer an argument.
    "Back off Warchild, seriously.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalamon View Post
    Only thing I'll give George a nod on for the time being is assists; but we know historically how that stat will play out (hint: in Hayward's favour)
    so FT%, 3pt %, and Blk do not count?
    Exum = Biggest bust in Jazz history.

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