Deja vu -- watching Gordon brick wide-open shots; screaming at TV. GH = CJ.
Deja vu -- watching Gordon brick wide-open shots; screaming at TV. GH = CJ.
Not even close. Hayward brings so many other things to the game. CJ has no Basketball IQ. Hayward doesOriginally Posted by rcb1820
yeah he is better then CJ... But we could have had Paul George, Kawhi Leonard and Jonas Valanciunas from last two drafts.
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Jerry Sloan: "I have to blame myself for Andrei's failure to be able to play at times because maybe I haven't handled him the way he'd like to be and done the right things"
Hindsight is 20/20. We also could have had any player that is worse than Hayward picked before him. With respect to the Valanciunas crowning, there is a lot of time to see what he and Kanter will become. We could have had Kenneth Faried as well. But let's not stop there. We could have had Manu Ginobili. In two years we'll know much more, but playing the game of could have had is mindless because 30 teams are trying to find talent everywhere in the world. There are just too many variables to nail it. Anyone who is reasonable can see that.
Of the three players you mentioned: two weren't even in the same draft, and the third is shooting a worse FG%, and only outscoring Hayward by 0.2PPG. All while playing 7mpg more.
You and I, along with every poster here (should) know that it is WAY to early to determine who will have the better career between George and Hayward. People are too busy ragging on Hayward, and not realizing that he is averaging 14.1 PPG even though he's shooting 26% from three. What happens when his percentages increase?
Which they invariably will after, what, the all-star break? 2 straight years Gordon's been a slow starter but absolutely dominant as the season enters the stretch run. Well until the playoffs that is.
Only one playoffs, which was his first. But hopefully he gets out of this slump and gets his stroke back, quick. He's got so many other pieces, he's a 40% three point shot away from being a key-cog to this team going forward
He struggles with his shot still. No one can deny that. It just isnt all there. But his defense is great. So that makes him better than CJ imo. Plus other things he does. He is just smarter. But he really needs to become a better scorer. Both driving and shooting.
People are forgetting when he stuffed the **** out of Derozan end of the 1st half... that was sick
I like Hayward. Period.
Leonard and Valanciunas were drafted after Kanter and Burks - not sure what you trying to say here. Check Goerge's rebounding numbers and other stats.Of the three players you mentioned: two weren't even in the same draft, and the third is shooting a worse FG%, and only outscoring Hayward by 0.2PPG. All while playing 7mpg more.
The Black Swordsman - a self proclaimed man of science who believes in flying winged horses.
Jerry Sloan: "I have to blame myself for Andrei's failure to be able to play at times because maybe I haven't handled him the way he'd like to be and done the right things"
a) thought this thread was about Hayward
b) LOL @ rebounding. What, Hayward is supposed to average 8 per on a roster with Jefferson, Millsap, Favors, Marvin Williams and Kanter? Only thing I'll give George a nod on for the time being is assists; but we know historically how that stat will play out (hint: in Hayward's favour)
Lets get real...we could have had Dominique Wilkins. Anyone know his first name was Jacques? I had no clue and he was my favorite dunker back in the day.
That being said, I like Haywood....and Alex.
Hayward lacks aggressiveness. Change that and there is no longer an argument.
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so FT%, 3pt %, and Blk do not count?
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Jerry Sloan: "I have to blame myself for Andrei's failure to be able to play at times because maybe I haven't handled him the way he'd like to be and done the right things"
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