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    So what about his friend? It has nothing to do with him. Dude seems completely full of **** and needs to be traded pronto. He'd perfect for the Kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmare3983 View Post
    I could be wrong, but I thought I read that his issues with wind sprints stemmed from having a friend collapse while doing them when he was a child.
    Accurate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth View Post
    So what about his friend? It has nothing to do with him. Dude seems completely full of **** and needs to be traded pronto. He'd perfect for the Kings.
    What coaches know (or anyone who does digging) is that he was very hard (ultra hard) for coaches to motivate, always had massive whining sessions while his teammates were working hard. The wind sprints was the birth of a way to get out of hard work. That is my opinion and the opinion of most everyone that has looked into his history and interviewed past coaches, teachers, etc.
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    Not sure why you responded to my post PKM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLI baby View Post
    Ever known two people with the same ailment or illness or what have you, but end up leading vastly different lives and have totally different outcomes?

    One person, almost refuses to talk about it, or accept it as their "lot in life" and is determined to break through whatever it is that's holding them down.

    The other person takes absolute ownership of their ailment and it becomes a part of who they are. "Hi I'm Royce, and I have an anxiety disorder, nice to meet you." it's darn near impossible for you to overcome something you constantly tell yourself you have.

    A lot of people never overcome their issues because it would involve destroying their own identity. Where a person goes in life is usually not contradictory to what they believe about themselves inside.

    I know mental illnesses are real, but I've known plenty of people who's mental illness stopped controlling their life once they refused to accept it anymore.
    This. No one I work with even knows I suffer from GAD. I had empathy for him at the start, but does appear he uses his disorder as a crutch to get a pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth View Post
    Not sure why you responded to my post PKM.
    I guess I was just agreeing .. not sure either.. haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLI baby View Post
    Ever known two people with the same ailment or illness or what have you, but end up leading vastly different lives and have totally different outcomes?

    One person, almost refuses to talk about it, or accept it as their "lot in life" and is determined to break through whatever it is that's holding them down.

    The other person takes absolute ownership of their ailment and it becomes a part of who they are. "Hi I'm Royce, and I have an anxiety disorder, nice to meet you." it's darn near impossible for you to overcome something you constantly tell yourself you have.

    A lot of people never overcome their issues because it would involve destroying their own identity. Where a person goes in life is usually not contradictory to what they believe about themselves inside.

    I know mental illnesses are real, but I've known plenty of people who's mental illness stopped controlling their life once they refused to accept it anymore.
    It's kinda like the difference between PKM, who busts down every conceivable barrier between himself and golden success, and Cy, who thinks he needs that mustache to protect himself from Dick drinkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
    It's kinda like the difference between PKM, who busts down every conceivable barrier between himself and golden success, and Cy, who thinks he needs that mustache to protect himself from Dick drinkers.
    I have no anxiety disorders, but I greatly appreciate those that do but overcome.. like Vermin.
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    Pretty sad state of affairs.

    I'm not doubting he has a problem, but dude, c'mon.

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    He seems to be a talented player and a big investment. Utah dealt with a player's mental illness with Luther Wright, and I hope this works out better for everyone then that first round bust did. What if White just played home games only? Go to the NBA players union and NBA execs to get a waiver on his rookie contract and pay him half of his agreed rookie salary for only home games. He doesn't have to travel at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey32 View Post
    He seems to be a talented player and a big investment. Utah dealt with a player's mental illness with Luther Wright, and I hope this works out better for everyone then that first round bust did. What if White just played home games only? Go to the NBA players union and NBA execs to get a waiver on his rookie contract and pay him half of his agreed rookie salary for only home games. He doesn't have to travel at all.
    No coach is going to play a rookie home games only. That would be so unfair to everyone else on the team and probably hurt the player's respect for the coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrone Torbin View Post
    No coach is going to play a rookie home games only. That would be so unfair to everyone else on the team and probably hurt the player's respect for the coach.
    I'm not advocating the idea, but clearly this depends upon how it's handled. If the players are behind a kid and the coach is perceived as going to bat for the team, then it works .. all things are just about how they're handled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    I'm not advocating the idea, but clearly this depends upon how it's handled. If the players are behind a kid and the coach is perceived as going to bat for the team, then it works .. all things are just about how they're handled.
    I could see it working with a veteran who has respect already, but I just can't see that ever working with a rookie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrone Torbin View Post
    I could see it working with a veteran who has respect already, but I just can't see that ever working with a rookie.
    That's weird, Cy. How would it work with a vet? ANyway, I'm right, so ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    That's weird, Cy. How would it work with a vet? ANyway, I'm right, so ..
    Like if you had a proven vet, someone like Millsap, who developed something to were he could no longer play road games. The team would understand because he has earned respect already. With Royce, it's almost like a sense of entitlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrone Torbin View Post
    Like if you had a proven vet, someone like Millsap, who developed something to were he could no longer play road games. The team would understand because he has earned respect already. With Royce, it's almost like a sense of entitlement.
    Yes. However, if a rookie were embraced by his teammates, it would be the same.. I guess what I'm saying is Royce doesn't seem to have many lobbying for him.
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