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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
    That has nothing to do with your idiotic remarks about " how religion makes people better". Looking at Israel and Palestine now tells opposite. You bringing Cuba and N.Korea to this discussion is absolutely ridiculous. Go dig for better arguments. On the other hand , do not waste time, you lost that discussion long time ago.
    I expect you to think I lost due to your irrationality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    How bought Cuba and North Korea?
    Communism is a religion in every way except for the belief in the supernatural. Let me know when you find a non-Communist example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
    Communism is a religion in every way except for the belief in the supernatural. Let me know when you find a non-Communist example.
    Society is God in the communist world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
    Communism is a religion in every way except for the belief in the supernatural. Let me know when you find a non-Communist example.
    Hitler's Germany. Read Hitlers Table talk in which Martin Bormann himself says that Hitler was an atheist. Mussonlini's Italy.

    Also by admitting that communism is like religion you are conceding that atheism can act just as bad as the worst of religions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    Adolf Hitler. Read Hitlers Table talk in which Martin Bormann himself says that Hitler was an atheist.
    And others say he was a Christian or a cultist.

    Hitler seeking power, wrote in Mein Kampf. "... I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews. I am doing the Lord's work."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameface View Post
    And others say he was a Christian or a cultist.
    Martin Bormann is Hitlers private secretary...

    Also in Mein Kampf Hitler said not to be afraid to lie to get what you want. I am not debating what Hitler pretended to be. Hitlers closest comrades including his private secretary said that hitler wanted to destroy the Church after he won the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    Martin Bormann is Hitlers private secretary...

    Also in Mein Kampf Hitler said not to be afraid to lie to get what you want. I am not debating what Hitler pretended to be. Hitlers closest comrades including his private secretary said that hitler wanted to destroy the Church after he won the war.
    There are many religious people who don't really believe in the religious mysticism they claim to believe in. That's doesn't really make them atheists. Hitler claimed to be religious and wanted to exterminate a certain religious population but not all religious people. Sounds faith based to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    Hitler's Germany.
    Hitler was not an atheist. Further, Nazi Germany was not an atheist state, and generally critical of atheism..

    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    Read Hitlers Table talk in which Martin Bormann himself says that Hitler was an atheist.
    Which version? Why should I take the word of Bormann over every other witness, including Hitler himself, who have said that Hitler was not a traditional Christian, but certainlyh held religious beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    Mussonlini's Italy.
    Mussolini made statements that he was and was not an atheist, at varoius times. Again, Italy was not an atheist state under Mussolini.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    Also by admitting that communism is like religion you are conceding that atheism can act just as bad as the worst of religions...
    Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. performed no massacres solely in the name of atheism. Let me know when you find one who did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    ...t hitler wanted to destroy the Church after he won the war.
    Of all the current posters on this board, you should agree that being opposed to Christianity does not make you an atheist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameface View Post
    Society is God in the communist world.
    Well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
    Hitler was not an atheist. Further, Nazi Germany was not an atheist state, and generally critical of atheism..



    Which version? Why should I take the word of Bormann over every other witness, including Hitler himself, who have said that Hitler was not a traditional Christian, but certainlyh held religious beliefs?



    Mussolini made statements that he was and was not an atheist, at varoius times. Again, Italy was not an atheist state under Mussolini.



    Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. performed no massacres solely in the name of atheism. Let me know when you find one who did.
    It is painfully obvious you have never read the communist manifesto which is influenced by ideas directly because of atheism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    It is painfully obvious you have never read the communist manifesto which is influenced by ideas directly because of atheism.
    The point of communism is not to destroy religion. Religion gets in the way of communist regimes ability to completely control their societies so they reject religion so that they can eliminate obedience to religious leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
    It is painfully obvious you have never read the communist manifesto which is influenced by ideas directly because of atheism.
    "Influenced by"? Every religious book that as ever been published has been "influenced by" by people who did not believe in the god being promoted. Weasel words do not impress.

    Communism proposed a non-supernatural fantasy. It's not atheism, or even atheism-plus. It's based in unreality.
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    An Indian's take on the conflict:

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/amillion...or-everything/
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    Isaiah 1:18 -- Come now, and let us reason together

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