Why not just let Israel go for it and put an end to the nonsense?

[Gameface]

So if Iran gets involved, and Egypt, and Syria, then Israel stomps all their asses like they've done every time those fools want to get crazy. The only thing stopping Israel from dominating the entire region is their own self control and pressure from the international community. Palestinians don't acknowledge Israel's right to exist and elect Hamas to lead them. I say let them suffer the consequences of their own stupidity and take the reins off Israel. When they are willing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist and put an end to rocket, mortar and terrorist attacks against Israeli women and children then they can continue living their backwards lives in the **** hole they haven't seemed to have the ability to improve, while Israel lives in the first world with a substantial industrial/technological economy.

[Nate505]

So if Iran gets involved, and Egypt, and Syria, then Israel stomps all their asses like they've done every time those fools want to get crazy. The only thing stopping Israel from dominating the entire region is their own self control and pressure from the international community. Palestinians don't acknowledge Israel's right to exist and elect Hamas to lead them. I say let them suffer the consequences of their own stupidity and take the reins off Israel. When they are willing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist and put an end to rocket, mortar and terrorist attacks against Israeli women and children then they can continue living their backwards lives in the **** hole they haven't seemed to have the ability to improve, while Israel lives in the first world with a substantial industrial/technological economy.

I would tend to agree with part of this, though I do wonder why Israelis continue to settle in areas of the said backwards ****hole.

[addictionary]

So if Iran gets involved, and Egypt, and Syria, then Israel stomps all their asses like they've done every time those fools want to get crazy. The only thing stopping Israel from dominating the entire region is their own self control and pressure from the international community. Palestinians don't acknowledge Israel's right to exist and elect Hamas to lead them. I say let them suffer the consequences of their own stupidity and take the reins off Israel. When they are willing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist and put an end to rocket, mortar and terrorist attacks against Israeli women and children then they can continue living their backwards lives in the **** hole they haven't seemed to have the ability to improve, while Israel lives in the first world with a substantial industrial/technological economy.

entire region? israel would walk around with **** in their pants unless us kept wiping their crap off.

[GVC]

Give them the green light and let them end the notion that Palestine exists in any real sense? It's Israel's time.

Unless they wipe out a large percentage of the Palestinian population or disallow them to vote in Israeli elections (that is, go from de facto apartheid to actual apartheid), absorbing Gaza and the West Bank (as opposed to just controlling those territories) into Israel would also be the end of Israeli rule over Israel, as the Palestinians outnumber the Israelis.

[The Black Swordsman]

The Jews have learned from Hitler how to massacre innocents.

[Stoked]

entire region? israel would walk around with **** in their pants unless us kept wiping their crap off.

I disagree. Israel is more than capable of holding their own. Yes having the US as an ally helps but don't under estimate Israel. I think the onyl people that would really give Israel any run for their money would be Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Iran. And lately it seems that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are being pushed more and more to Israels side.

[Stoked]

One thing I have always wondered, does Israel control the border between Gaza and Egypt? If not wouldn't Egypt be to blame for the Palestinian plight in Gaza as well? They could open that border to allow goods to move across it.

Anyone know?

[One Brow]

Give them the green light and let them end the notion that Palestine exists in any real sense? It's Israel's time.

See, I thought you would mean Israel would stop erecting and protecting Israeli cities in Palestinian territory and turn the protection of Palestinian land over to Palestine. That would be going for it.

[addictionary]

One thing I have always wondered, does Israel control the border between Gaza and Egypt? If not wouldn't Egypt be to blame for the Palestinian plight in Gaza as well? They could open that border to allow goods to move across it.

Anyone know?

not anymore. now egypt controls it. they have a 100 meter buffer zone and even steel walls beneath the surface walls to tackle the smugglers which they cannot.

but the problem is the egypt weare talking about is not arafat's egypt. it's the far end opposite of that. they will not conflict with israel directly. but the pm of egypt talked to obama. a government official of egypt said that they might stop the trade with israel, they might cut all the relations with them which would hurt the peace treaty, but they would never do smth to grow the tension higher.

[One Brow]

One thing I have always wondered, does Israel control the border between Gaza and Egypt? If not wouldn't Egypt be to blame for the Palestinian plight in Gaza as well? They could open that border to allow goods to move across it.

Anyone know?

Israel has blockaded Gaza, including the border with Egypt.  In fact, there are dozens of tunnels that run from Egypt to Gaza used to smuggle things past the blockade.

The proceeding information is no longer true. I apologize for my error.

[addictionary]

here's a nice pic of che visiting gaza. this one's mostly for ya ilyasova..

[jazzyapma]

One thing I have always wondered, does Israel control the border between Gaza and Egypt? If not wouldn't Egypt be to blame for the Palestinian plight in Gaza as well? They could open that border to allow goods to move across it.

Anyone know?

Here is a google translation of a Turkish article about it. I didn't read the translation but I believe it would suck:

Egypt opened Rafah border into Egypt Gaza resident Gate thousands of demobilization Nearly a month has passed through a wall. For a period of 15 days beginning on January 23, continued this transition. What are you able to intervene in Egypt nor Israel, can stop the passage.

Border nowadays, quiet and still, because in Egypt, the Foreign Minister of Gazans completely closing the border on February 3 Geyt'in, "Who will break the feet of limit breaches." did not forget the words in the form of intimidation.

In fact, since the breach of the Egyptian-Israeli border in terms of both Egypt and Israel and has emerged as a new security problem. America is concerned about this problem, and a kind of Egyptian mediation between Israel and doing it.

Indeed, this bapta U.S. Assistant Secretary of State David Welch, 10 days ago, Cairo, Jerusalem and Ramallah to visit and has consulted with officials searched for a solution to a common problem.

News, Egyptian Foreign Minister Gheit and intelligence chief General Omar Suleiman, Egypt and Gaza Welch talks with the probe as well as the overall situation and arrived at the conclusion that changes its stance on boundary violations understood.

After his talks with Egyptian officials informed Israel about them in Welch, Israelis, is ready to change the situation on the border of Egypt, Israel no longer listen to the demands of the Egyptian border, has pointed to the need to take into account.

Egypt, then a more effective border control in order to fulfill the 750-strong security force deployed along the border in the first 1500 to raise the demand. After Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in August 2005 in accordance with a special agreement reached with Egypt, the Israeli border, in addition to the normal police force, along the border of Egypt had agreed to employ 750 soldiers. However, as a result of events occurring in these 750 soldiers are insufficient to control the border to Egypt, this power to 1,500's removal had bid.

However, Israel tends to be hesitant about it. Ministry of Defence and the army along border of Egypt meets the increasing power of violence. On the other hand, until recently, those who agree with the vision changed the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Egypt, the Egyptian security forces found to have reported the opinion that the adoption of the demand for more advanced and efficient equip weapons, the government is recommended. Opinion of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of displacement on the border between Egypt and Gaza because the situation had changed, and therefore be concluded that Israel must change its attitude can be summarized as strong. This, of course, is considered a realistic assessment.

Welch also share the same assessment and to implement it in the coming days, Israel, Egypt, the United States and the Palestinian Authority wants to put together a security summit made. America soon to want to do it in a way likely to peak, but of course will not be able to Hamas, which controls Gaza.

Certainly the border between Egypt and Israel is not only limited to Gaza. Collum area almost all the 400 kilometers between the two countries which have a long border. Until recently, this limit is not experienced much of the problem, so to speak, as no longer accept Israel's turned sieve. The last two years, at least up to 3,000 African refugees have managed to enter Israel through the border clandestinely. In short, the Egyptian-Israeli border, today Israel has emerged as a major problem and that border Israel suggests that the black. Israel is facing a new problem now 400 miles long. Let's see what to do against it?

21 February 2008

[addictionary]

this bapta

[jazzyapma]

this bapta

"Nitekim, bu bapta"

[The Thriller]

How can you be ignorant like this when your CIA triggers all this to start in the first place? It was the USA who founded Israel. Either you would f*** off the other nation's borders or you should "care".

The USA founded Israel?

And you're calling me ignorant?

ohhh dear.