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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
    you gotta wonder, would hayward be coming off the bench if he were black?
    maybe hayward has just accepted the reverse racialism in the NBA at this point.
    maybe, he needs to insert himself into the starting lineup and refuse to go to the bench until officials physically force him.
    I'm not saying Hayward has the opportunity to be the NBA's reverse Rosa Parks, but I'm not saying he doesn't, either.
    You decide.
    May be you should stop being an idiot. Have you thought of that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilencer1313 View Post
    I agree big time with Gameface on this one.
    Not only is Hayward better suited coming off of the bench himself..... he also makes Kanter, Marvin, and Carroll better as well. In that second unit, you have two play makers in Hayward and Tinsley to help Kanter develop along with (mostly) solid offense from Marvin as well as great defense and hustle from Carroll.
    This bench reminds me of something like San Antonio has, in that Ginobili is a playmaker, as is Hayward.

    Hayward is a winner, and a leader. One of those guys that will help a team win no matter what the role may be.
    YES YES YES!! He's wearing that number 20 jersey for a reason too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
    you gotta wonder, would hayward be coming off the bench if he were black?
    maybe hayward has just accepted the reverse racialism in the NBA at this point.
    maybe, he needs to insert himself into the starting lineup and refuse to go to the bench until officials physically force him.
    I'm not saying Hayward has the opportunity to be the NBA's reverse Rosa Parks, but I'm not saying he doesn't, either.
    You decide.
    Why in the hell do you continue with the lame racist jokes? Or are you actually serious when you spout this crap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotttnickkk View Post
    May be you should stop being an idiot. Have you thought of that?
    HH is intentionally replying the way he/she/it is. It amazes me that so many people give him/her/it play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotttnickkk View Post
    YES YES YES!! He's wearing that number 20 jersey for a reason too!
    Haha nice. I didn't even take that into consideration when I made the comment.
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    Interesting. SOME people believe racialism is a joke. Noted.

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    And people wonder why Burks isn't playing. Here are two players getting "demoted". One works harder. Another sulks and demands a trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green View Post
    And people wonder why Burks isn't playing. Here are two players getting "demoted". One works harder. Another sulks and demands a trade.
    Burks demanded a trade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
    Burks demanded a trade?
    I would be surprise if he didn't.

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    I like Hayward off the bench too. Not that he's not a starting caliber player-- he is-- but he's not a good fit in our starting lineup right now.

    When Hayward starts, he's the third option, behind Jefferson and Millsap. Most of his game as a starter is throwing the ball down low to Jefferson.

    When Hayward comes off the bench, he's the man. First option. He gets more touches, more offense, and more playmaking.

    Next year is Hayward's year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xsy View Post
    I like Hayward off the bench too. Not that he's not a starting caliber player-- he is-- but he's not a good fit in our starting lineup right now.

    When Hayward starts, he's the third option, behind Jefferson and Millsap. Most of his game as a starter is throwing the ball down low to Jefferson.

    When Hayward comes off the bench, he's the man. First option. He gets more touches, more offense, and more playmaking.

    Next year is Hayward's year.
    Actually, i think this year is Hayward's year - meaning that it is great that he gets to play with his other youngens to see what they can do. While starting is a big deal socially, this experiment with Hayward should (hopefully) show the anticipated excellence of the youth...

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    Got to love Hayward. He's playing a lot better since coming off the bench. Whatever works he's ok with, as long as he plays.
    That's why we like this kid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotttnickkk View Post
    May be you should stop being an idiot. Have you thought of that?
    Trolls don't have brains. Just stop responding and feeding the troll
    Quote Originally Posted by green View Post
    And people wonder why Burks isn't playing. Here are two players getting "demoted". One works harder. Another sulks and demands a trade.
    I wouldn't call Hayward to the second unit a demotion, as he plays less with Al and Millsap. Also did Burks demand a trade or just speculation on your part. As for me if he isn't going to play trade him!
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    So do bad teams..... Just sayin'!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cctrackstar View Post
    I've heard this before, and he confirmed in this article that Hayward doesn't mind coming off the bench:

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/55...bench.html.csp

    My question is do we like this or not? On the one hand it means that he is more flexible as far as how he is used and he won't be a locker room cancer or a pouty Millsap - er player I mean.

    On the other hand, does this mean that he doesn't have the fire to truly be great?

    I know he's really competitive, I have heard about how he is really pissed if he loses a game of one on one. Do we call BS on him being fine with coming off the bench? Is he just really good at PR stuff? I think of all of the players, he is the one who is most likely to be ok with it, but that brings us back to the question: Are we ok with him being ok with it?
    I don't know if I like him being a bench player in general, but with the starting lineup the way it is he absolutely needs to be off the bench. Who can operate effectively with a PG who can barely pass and a C who dominates the ball.
    It started with Earl [Watson], Randy [Foye] and Marvin [Williams]–the veteran guys. I thought the young guys did a good job of following their lead getting us off to a good start. - referring to the Jazz/Bobcats game on 3/1/13

    Earl, Randy, and Marvin started the first quarter 0-3, scored a whopping zero points, and finished with a turnover in the first quarter.

    Your head coach of the Jazz ladies and gentlemen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
    you gotta wonder, would hayward be coming off the bench if he were black?
    maybe hayward has just accepted the reverse racialism in the NBA at this point.
    maybe, he needs to insert himself into the starting lineup and refuse to go to the bench until officials physically force him.
    I'm not saying Hayward has the opportunity to be the NBA's reverse Rosa Parks, but I'm not saying he doesn't, either.
    You decide.
    What is with your bizarre obsession with race? You taking over CJ's role here?
    It started with Earl [Watson], Randy [Foye] and Marvin [Williams]–the veteran guys. I thought the young guys did a good job of following their lead getting us off to a good start. - referring to the Jazz/Bobcats game on 3/1/13

    Earl, Randy, and Marvin started the first quarter 0-3, scored a whopping zero points, and finished with a turnover in the first quarter.

    Your head coach of the Jazz ladies and gentlemen.

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