Im not afraid of anyone shorter than me.
Im not afraid of anyone shorter than me.
The fact is, we haven't been "our own nation" since the Civil War, the watershed of actual liberty which, while being loosely associated with a supposed advancement in civil liberty for the black slaves, was also the foot in the door for British interests which became prominent in banking and the various robber baron cartels. While the nominal "robber barons" were "Americans" at the head of these organizations, the money behind them, and the philosophy behind them, was a new outreach of British Imperialism. As a result, today our various leading "interests" influential in American politics are generally quite the reverse of "American" and quite the tweedle dee to the twiddle dumb of British interests. And following from than, the UN is really pretty much the British ideal of oligarchy and sophisticated management of world affairs through puppet stooges.
The whole problem with the "New World Order" ideal of world governance is the fact that some of the "stooges" have become the gorillas in the bedroom of world dominance, and do in fact realize that their power is sufficient to re-order the whole "family" under their overt tyrrany.
And I bet you won't be too happy with how that works out.
Do nothing to defend the status quo in the South China sea, and it will be impossible to do anything about it anywhere else.
Before the Korean War, the Chinese studied MacArthur as the relevant man in Asia, and saw him as arrogant, hence vulnerable, and decided they could take him on. He did indeed prove vulnerable, not militarily but politically, and we ourselves unseated him as the relevant "man" in China, and showed ourselves to lack the will to achieve our national interests in Asia.
nuke china to kingdom come
But we can't do that without entombing ourselves in a planetary dust cloud that would last twenty years and freeze us out of existence, even if China and/or Russia had no ability to return fire. And besides, whatever else you can say about the Chinese, they are the best and hardest working people on this planet, and aside from their cultural conformance obsessions, probably the smartest too.
The British have known for centuries that their only chance to dominate China is to dope them up and control their trade, and saddle them with an insane western political ideology called marxism. Looks like they've sprung loose from the Brit trap after all. Wish I could say the Americans have done as much.
If we were really smart, we'd edge the Brits out of influence in China, and shoe-horn American liberty in, and call them our allies.
Come to think of it, that's what we should do in the Middle East, too.
I wonder what kind of effect this will have on the flow of jobs being outsourced to China.
Also, there's always the "hot money" flow issues China would have to deal with.
In mega-bank rhetoric, once they set up some factories that can produce useful things of long-lasting value, the American dollars we fondly imagine they'll ship back to us at depreciated values can just as well be replaced by fiat currency of their own printing, and their people can keep rolling outta bed and going to work just the same, and make use of their own stuff.
I have a very smart sister in law who grew up in China. It's interesting to hear how things are over there from her. I also have a pretty smart nephew who is there working for a Chinese supercorp, but he can't be bothered to talk to me. I have to distill what he says from my sister, who can't be counted on to understand what she's been told.
Tell you what, instead of just doing my usual smartass imitation, I'll check out things the best I can, and try to give you a better response in few days.
"Alliance with none, commerce with all" will one day be our humble plea. . . . . If we can defend "our" territory. . . .
Japan learned its lesson pretty quick about trying to manage Asia, but only because we were in the fight. Basically, even China will find it untenable to impose "management" over the peripheral territories of Southeast Asia, as well as Japan. Because the military costs will escalate to the point of diminishing returns, and it will have it's manpower depleted by doing so. I mean "reliable" manpower that will not take advantage of personal opportunities to enhance life at the expense of the "State". Bribes are pretty much the way of life in Asia, and the chief impediment to top-down rule.
No "corrupt" government can really be "strong".
The shortcoming of communists is they can't create a vibrant economy without losing control so the build export-oriented models in order to mask their faults. The Russians did this with their grain crops and weaponry, and their people starved. The Chinese people are starving from their export-oriented system. America found out the pitfalls of relying on the consumption of others much more severely than Europe after 1929. Japan had a similar learning experience when things ended badly with the Plaza Accords. Export nations are dependent on outside forces and these economies can either adjust or they can implode. It is not a sign of strength.
If it were as easy for China to do what you suggest -- simply print their own self-sustaining fiat -- and retain communistic control over their economy then they would. However, their banking system is highly corrupt and designed to pay off the local CP leaders with bad loans that are paid for by destroying the savings of their citizens. Their banks are highly suspect of being insolvent and this wouldn't be the first time they were forced to use foreign reserves to shore up these corrupt banks (see Asian Currency Crisis).
In order to reverse this chronic condition they have to stop robbing their citizens of purchasing power and turn control over to the people in a democratic fashion. When they do that we win. Their options are to implode or create a more sustainable economy. That's why they are finally focusing on consumption over production, or at least giving lip service to it. They've seen the end game and know they'll have to change their ways or get put right back into that place the Brits left them.
Murricah **** Yeah!
well, I guess I'll have to go through some other threads to "earn" the privilege to give you credit for this.You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to franklin again.
I guess my emphasis is on trying to crap on our own growing central planning penchant and tolerance for corruption. If we don't want to implode our own selves as a nation that can do some good in the world as well as manage our own selves. . . . we'll have to pass on the general world-wide "corruption" that is and will be the reason nobody else can do anything good for the world, either.