This will surely bring unity to the board as we all come into agreement on this issue...
Jim Les, here's a link to an article that I posted in a previous thread on this subject. It will help lend some perspective to Zimmerman's mindset and why he acted the way he did.
Isaiah 1:18 -- Come now, and let us reason together
Any habitual action, such as eating or dressing, may be performed on the appropriate occasion, without any need of thought, and the same seems to be true of a painfully large proportion of our talk. -- Bertrand Russell
Somehow I couldn't locate the Trayvon Martin megathread I thought existed, but this one's just as good.
Anyway, new stuff today. Photos he took of himself growing a pot plant, holding a gun and exhaling what I think is safe to say is pot smoke.
Doesn't change my opinion at all really. None of these things were happening during the encounter with Zimmerman, which is all that really matters.
Wow, that was the most satisfactory neg I've given in all my time on this board. It is a shame that I was banned during this thread, because I would have had a blast. JimLes, dude, please... Don't ever have children.
"I always thought it meant quit ****ing talking the whole time. People would quote someone and then put qft and i would think, what an asshole" -- fishonjazz
If they find out he was high at the time it makes it LESS likely he attacked Zimmerman. Just sayin'.
But they do believe he had smoked pot within a couple hours of the encounter. Also that he had been sending a series of angry texts back and fourth with a friend of his and was on the phone with the friend he was fighting with at the time of the encounter with Zimmerman.
It seems to me that Zimmerman's defense is to smear Martin. The kid could have been a serial rapist at his school. None of that mattered at the time Zimmermann murdered Martin. He had no way of knowing the kid's background. Nor does it justify his actions. Quite honestly, I am sickened at how this case has been carried out thus far.
I doubt we will ever know what truly happened as only 1 person survived this incident. If only we could ask Trayvon what really happened.
IMO, I'm just sick and tired of mall cops. These guys are usually punks with self esteem issues. They are less concerned with the safety of others than with their own egos. Zimmermann had a long history of trying to make himself feel important. He routinely jumped the gun and called the police at any lil squeak or shout in the neighborhood. this dude needed a real job... badly!
Although, that probably has about as much relevance as Trayvon's past...
Was he acting in self defense or not? What gave him the right to stalk Trayvon? Why didnt he back away when cops told him to leave the kid alone?
It seems to me that the defense case is somewhat akin to blame the rape victim, e.g., she was a slut, so if she had it coming, or if she didn't have it coming, at least it's understandable.
The fact that Zimmerman was injured to me can be reasonably interpreted in a number of ways. How do we know, for example, that Martin didn't feel imminent threat so he chose fight instead of flight? How do we know, moreover, that Zimmerman did not instigate the physical struggle and Martin was merely fighting back? If I'm attacked physically, for example, I will do all I can to incapacitate my attacker, including, if I need to, slamming his head on the pavement. Since Martin is dead, we don't know his side of the story. I'm asking this honestly, is there any information where we can safely rule out that Martin felt imminent threat or that Zimmerman was the one who instigated the fight?