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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkwing Duck View Post
    Toughest November schedule?

    They've had the 23rd toughest schedule so far.
    I sometimes wonder where you get your information.
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    Reality check is pretty simple to me, after ten games we are a .500 team that doesn't seem to have a solid plan for the future. Its like Corbin is trying to win now with veterans...except for he isn't really winning all that much. I've seen way to much of Jefferson, Milsap, and Foye and haven't seen enough Kanter, Favors and Burks. We cannot contend with the way we are playing now, not with the minute allocation. We have to make changes and get our younger guys involved so they can improve. Don't see enough movement on offense. We have potential and talent, it just isn't being used and thats Corbins fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thriller View Post
    Stop being cheap. No one is suggesting our only option is to somehow get Lebron. So stop being an ass.

    Simple realistic solutions:

    #1 Play Burks. No more DNPs. Period.
    #2 Start Favors. No reason why he shouldn't. He's our best big.
    #3 Serve me a heavy dosage of Turkey. He's ready.
    #4 No more Jefferson. Seriously. Time to trade him for literally anything.
    #5 Define roles. Corbin is an idiot. You're not "coaching" basketball players. You are there to define roles and make sure players are playing those roles. If they aren't, sit their candy asses down. If they don't like it, show'em the door. Up until now our team hasn't had an identity. We're 5 players each trying to score. Defensively, we're 5 players not looking out for each other. Time to define roles. What is Millsap's role? Who is our G2 guy(s)? It's late in the 4th quarter, it's a key 3rd down, we need to connect, what is our g2 play? When Jerry was here, there wasn't any question what Stockton/Malone or Williams/Boozer/Money Memo were going to do.
    #6 If Ty Corbin is unable to do this, ship his candy ass out of here.
    #7 Bench players. If it's one of those typical games against New Orleans and you can see guys aren't playing hard, sit their candy asses down. Yell at Dick Bavetta and pick up a T. I can't tell you how many times Jerry jumpstarted his teams with a key sub or tech.
    #8 Structure a damn offense. Along with roles, I want to see some identity or semblance of an offense. If Marvin Williams can post up his man, do it. Keep going at it until the defense adjusts.
    #9 Along w/#8, I want to see some hot high/low action from our bigs. I don't see that at all. I have no clue why, as all 4 of our bigs are capable. 1 never passes. But the other 3 are pretty unselfish. Kanter dumping down inside to Favors for a pin down dunk ala Gasol to Bynum could be unstoppable. Millsap to Kanter/Favors down low could be awesome. Why aren't we doing this?
    #10 Change up the defenses. Get imaginative for crying out loud. Mix up the man, zones, boxes, everything. Like in Football, one can do wonders by mixing up defenses to keep the offense guessing. Our team currently runs the most vanilla defense I've ever seen.

    There are 10 simple and realistic solutions that would drastically improve this team.
    First of all Basketball prospectus has the Jazz's schedule as the hardest so far, dont know how reliable or where they get their #'s but it seems pretty legit.

    1. Dont think playing Burks a ton wins the Jazz more games, would make the game more interesting to watch but thats about it.
    2. I agree with this, you try and get Paul on board with this though.
    3. He is really up and down this year, from almost great, to really ****ing bad
    4. This is a stupid
    5. I agree with this, I would like to see more structure when it comes to whats going on Utah is the 8th most efficient offense. Things aren't as bad as you make them out to be.
    6. I would like to see Ty be more of a bad ass
    7.Agree
    8.Once again, 8th most efficient offense behind NYK, MIA. OKC, LAC, LAL, Spurs, and Rockets ....
    9.I would love to see more high low and inside outside play
    10. Our D needs work, I agree.

    Wouldnt it be soooo easy to be an NBA coach?

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    Regardless of our record I am always ready for the next game. GO JAZZ!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilencer1313 View Post
    I sometimes wonder where you get your information.
    http://espn.go.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnight shift View Post
    Oh please. Like EPSN would ever put Utah near the top in strength of schedule.
    This rating is all up to interpretation anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
    those are all very good teams bro
    Stop calling people your bro!
    Quote Originally Posted by Cope View Post
    Again, fans like you bitch about things but what would be your solution? The Jazz are in one of the best positions heading into next year cap wise. They have chips to trade.
    They are competitive and winning games yet there has been a number of issues against them.


    Also where was I whining? Pretty sure I laid out the facts....

    The fact is, in the NBA you don't win titles unless you are Jordan or Lebron OR have a dominant big. The only team to win without those was the Pistons and they had the DPOY in the middle.

    So I guess I should of asked... How many fans would rather us be competitive and in the playoffs or how many would take losing for 5-10 years to land a legend to get us a title before they leave to south beach or LA?
    completely agre with ya. Sorry but I'm not going through one of those legendary Clipper runs, and the only reason they are relevant now is through trades. Let me stop some of you before say something stupid like, but they drafted Griffin with the #1 pick. Griffin couldn't even win half his games before Paul came in. Do you all want to wait 20 years before we can draft Griffin.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
    Regardless of our record I am always ready for the next game. GO JAZZ!!!!
    I'm with ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkwing Duck View Post
    Toughest November schedule?

    They've had the 23rd toughest schedule so far.
    14th, according to Sagarin.

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...in/nba1213.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawlnstall View Post
    Reality check is pretty simple to me, after ten games we are a .500 team that doesn't seem to have a solid plan for the future. Its like Corbin is trying to win now with veterans...except for he isn't really winning all that much. I've seen way to much of Jefferson, Milsap, and Foye and haven't seen enough Kanter, Favors and Burks. We cannot contend with the way we are playing now, not with the minute allocation. We have to make changes and get our younger guys involved so they can improve. Don't see enough movement on offense. We have potential and talent, it just isn't being used and thats Corbins fault.

    This.

    I agree with the OP that this team is playing ok right now and is on track to finish the season with a pretty good record and make the playoffs, and then get our asses kicked.

    My problem is that A. the team is not planning for the future and playing the vets so much right now makes us worse next year when they are off the team and we are relying on the youth without the experience they could be gaining now. And B. They just are not very fun to watch.

    I know i enjoy watching the jazz much more when burks, favors, kanter, and hayward are in the game. I dont think our record would be ALOT different if favors and burks got more minutes, but it would definately be a more fun and interesting team to watch...... However it seems like entertainment and future success is being sacrificed so our vets can get better contracts with some other team next year, and we can get swept in the playoffs again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
    those are all very good teams bro
    he is not your bro buddy
    01-21-2013
    I, HeavenHarris, hereby pledge to my fellow JFC'rs that I will no longer give out neg-reps. All it does is cause negative things, like fights, drama, bitching, ill will, bad feelings, etc.
    Love, not hate, is the answer bros and moes.

    LOL Lol breaks his pledge 5 days later hahahaha

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    I think the Jazz record would be a little worse than it is now if the young guys got more minutes but I am ok with that because it is part of the process of developing your young guys. So you lose but players improve more by playing than watching. Besides the fact that playing allows the organization to truly evaluate their player.

    So if the Jazz played Burks last year when they had really no one standing out how much farther along would he be. Now he seems to have lost his confidence and is playing looking over his shoulder because he knows he is going to get taken out regardless of what he does.

    For me it is the most annoying thing to watch our young guys sit on the bench when a 8 year vet is clanking shots or playing poorly.

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    I'm hopeful that they'll make the 7th seed this year, 6th the following, then back into the lottery after the 2014-15 season. Go Jazz!
    No Mediocrity

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    I'm hopeful that they'll make the 7th seed this year, 6th the following, then back into the lottery after the 2014-15 season. Go Jazz!
    yeah
    atleast we'll be getting swept by the god-like immortal spurs in the procces
    01-21-2013
    I, HeavenHarris, hereby pledge to my fellow JFC'rs that I will no longer give out neg-reps. All it does is cause negative things, like fights, drama, bitching, ill will, bad feelings, etc.
    Love, not hate, is the answer bros and moes.

    LOL Lol breaks his pledge 5 days later hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchJazzer View Post
    he is not your bro buddy
    He's not your buddy, dog.
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