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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
    So you are ok with others deciding who and what you are. Good to know.
    Holy cow. All I was doing with my original comment was pointing out that regardless of what I believe or am OK with (or not) I am labeled.

    For the record:

    A. I do not hate gay people
    B. I am not homophobic
    C. I do not believe in gay marriage
    D. I do not believe in extending every benefit that married couples receive to gays via a civil union. That said, there are a number that I have no issue with.

    Take it for what it's worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
    If it helps them walk the walk as Bronco put it then it is a good idea. You can oppose gay marriage without hating gays. The two do not have to be linked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown View Post
    They wouldn't be treated any different than a guy that has a porn problem.
    That these two posts are next to each was very amusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameface View Post
    You didn't have to specifically hate black people in order to be indifferent in regard to slavery.
    There is indeed between holding specifically bitgoted ideas and enabling a homophobic culture. They just have many of the same results.
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    This thread is EXACTLY what I expected it to be. It's **** like this that makes be applaud the alt movement around here. Too many dudes are rehashing the same "balanced" and "no nonsense" *********, they deserve to be ****ed with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colton View Post
    I really don't want to start one of THOSE threads again, but...

    I have NEVER heard a decent argument FOR it.
    If two gay men are raising a child together, being married allows them to provide better resources, better security, and better support to their family, in areas like health insurance, chronic illness, and estate planning. What better reason do you need? What better reason do you use to justify heterosexual marriage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
    If two gay men are raising a child together, being married allows them to provide better resources, better security, and better support to their family, in areas like health insurance, chronic illness, and estate planning. What better reason do you need? What better reason do you use to justify heterosexual marriage?
    Why do the men have to be gay? What if you and a male friend want to raise a child together but aren't interested in having any homosexual relations with each other? I still can't see what homosexuality has to do with anything in this argument.
    The word you are looking for is very probably "complement", not "compliment". As in "Favors and Kanter will likely complement each other nicely". Although... depending on how impressive a given play is, they may compliment each other nicely as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
    If two gay men are raising a child together, being married allows them to provide better resources, better security, and better support to their family, in areas like health insurance, chronic illness, and estate planning. What better reason do you need? What better reason do you use to justify heterosexual marriage?
    Now there are about 20 cons that have been listed... please see previous posts to see reasonon why and why not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scat View Post
    Holy cow. All I was doing with my original comment was pointing out that regardless of what I believe or am OK with (or not) I am labeled.

    For the record:

    A. I do not hate gay people
    B. I am not homophobic
    C. I do not believe in gay marriage
    D. I do not believe in extending every benefit that married couples receive to gays via a civil union. That said, there are a number that I have no issue with.

    Take it for what it's worth.
    Ashley's dad doesn't hate black people.
    Ashley's dad doesn't have racist notions.
    Ashley's dad doesn't believe black people whould marry white people.
    Ashley's dad doesn't believe in extending every benefit that married couples receive to gays via a civil union.

    Take it for what it's worth.

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/ashleymi...e-lost-my-dad/
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    Quote Originally Posted by colton View Post
    Why do the men have to be gay? What if you and a male friend want to raise a child together but aren't interested in having any homosexual relations with each other? I still can't see what homosexuality has to do with anything in this argument.
    So, you'd be in favor of allowing the two men to marry, even if they were asexual? Or, do you limit asexual marriages to one man and one woman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGolds View Post
    Now there are about 20 cons that have been listed... please see previous posts to see reasonon why and why not...
    I could go through each one individually and explain why it does not apply, but we've been there. Some cons are even corrected by the listed pros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
    This thread is EXACTLY what I expected it to be. It's **** like this that makes be applaud the alt movement around here. Too many dudes are rehashing the same "balanced" and "no nonsense" *********, they deserve to be ****ed with.
    I have a couple character ideas who'd be perfect for this place if I ever get around to figuring this alt stuff out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
    I could go through each one individually and explain why it does not apply, but we've been there. Some cons are even corrected by the listed pros.
    I love hearing self-taught BS. You could use that same rebuttal for saying the cons cancel out the pros cause they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    I have a couple character ideas who'd be perfect for this place if I ever get around to figuring this alt stuff out.
    This dweebie looking **** with the beard is your best work yet. You sincerely amaze me.

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    The thing that people don't understand is that....

    No, I'm too tired for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
    Ashley's dad doesn't hate black people.
    Ashley's dad doesn't have racist notions.
    Ashley's dad doesn't believe black people whould marry white people.
    Ashley's dad doesn't believe in extending every benefit that married couples receive to gays via a civil union.

    Take it for what it's worth.

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/ashleymi...e-lost-my-dad/
    Apples and oranges.

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