Mormons and Gays.

[Scat]

So you are ok with others deciding who and what you are. Good to know.

Holy cow. All I was doing with my original comment was pointing out that regardless of what I believe or am OK with (or not) I am labeled.

For the record:

A. I do not hate gay people
B. I am not homophobic
C. I do not believe in gay marriage
D. I do not believe in extending every benefit that married couples receive to gays via a civil union. That said, there are a number that I have no issue with.

Take it for what it's worth.

[One Brow]

If it helps them walk the walk as Bronco put it then it is a good idea. You can oppose gay marriage without hating gays. The two do not have to be linked.

They wouldn't be treated any different than a guy that has a porn problem.

That these two posts are next to each was very amusing.

[One Brow]

You didn't have to specifically hate black people in order to be indifferent in regard to slavery.

There is indeed between holding specifically bitgoted ideas and enabling a homophobic culture. They just have many of the same results.

[NAOS]

This thread is EXACTLY what I expected it to be. It's **** like this that makes be applaud the alt movement around here. Too many dudes are rehashing the same "balanced" and "no nonsense" *********, they deserve to be ****ed with.

[One Brow]

I really don't want to start one of THOSE threads again, but...

I have NEVER heard a decent argument FOR it.

If two gay men are raising a child together, being married allows them to provide better resources, better security, and better support to their family, in areas like health insurance, chronic illness, and estate planning. What better reason do you need? What better reason do you use to justify heterosexual marriage?

[colton]

If two gay men are raising a child together, being married allows them to provide better resources, better security, and better support to their family, in areas like health insurance, chronic illness, and estate planning. What better reason do you need? What better reason do you use to justify heterosexual marriage?

Why do the men have to be gay? What if you and a male friend want to raise a child together but aren't interested in having any homosexual relations with each other? I still can't see what homosexuality has to do with anything in this argument.

[JGolds]

If two gay men are raising a child together, being married allows them to provide better resources, better security, and better support to their family, in areas like health insurance, chronic illness, and estate planning. What better reason do you need? What better reason do you use to justify heterosexual marriage?

Now there are about 20 cons that have been listed... please see previous posts to see reasonon why and why not...

thread/

[One Brow]

Holy cow. All I was doing with my original comment was pointing out that regardless of what I believe or am OK with (or not) I am labeled.

For the record:

A. I do not hate gay people
B. I am not homophobic
C. I do not believe in gay marriage
D. I do not believe in extending every benefit that married couples receive to gays via a civil union. That said, there are a number that I have no issue with.

Take it for what it's worth.

Ashley's dad doesn't hate black people.
Ashley's dad doesn't have racist notions.
Ashley's dad doesn't believe black people whould marry white people.
Ashley's dad doesn't believe in extending every benefit that married couples receive to gays via a civil union.

Take it for what it's worth.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/ashleymi...e-lost-my-dad/

[One Brow]

Why do the men have to be gay? What if you and a male friend want to raise a child together but aren't interested in having any homosexual relations with each other? I still can't see what homosexuality has to do with anything in this argument.

So, you'd be in favor of allowing the two men to marry, even if they were asexual? Or, do you limit asexual marriages to one man and one woman?

[One Brow]

Now there are about 20 cons that have been listed... please see previous posts to see reasonon why and why not...

I could go through each one individually and explain why it does not apply, but we've been there. Some cons are even corrected by the listed pros.

[franklin]

This thread is EXACTLY what I expected it to be. It's **** like this that makes be applaud the alt movement around here. Too many dudes are rehashing the same "balanced" and "no nonsense" *********, they deserve to be ****ed with.

I have a couple character ideas who'd be perfect for this place if I ever get around to figuring this alt stuff out.

[JGolds]

I could go through each one individually and explain why it does not apply, but we've been there. Some cons are even corrected by the listed pros.

I love hearing self-taught BS. You could use that same rebuttal for saying the cons cancel out the pros cause they do.

[NAOS]

I have a couple character ideas who'd be perfect for this place if I ever get around to figuring this alt stuff out.

This dweebie looking **** with the beard is your best work yet. You sincerely amaze me.

[spycam1]

The thing that people don't understand is that....

No, I'm too tired for this.

[Scat]

Ashley's dad doesn't hate black people.
Ashley's dad doesn't have racist notions.
Ashley's dad doesn't believe black people whould marry white people.
Ashley's dad doesn't believe in extending every benefit that married couples receive to gays via a civil union.

Take it for what it's worth.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/ashleymi...e-lost-my-dad/

Apples and oranges.