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    Quote Originally Posted by fishonjazz View Post
    Thread: How are we going to score without Al?

    just copied and pasted the title of the thread for ya..... now how am changing the topic again?
    We've been talking about ball movement for the past 10 pages.
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    I've followed every post. WTF is the conclusion already?
    #dumptruckin

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaticWolf View Post
    We've been talking about ball movement for the past 10 pages.

    I guess you guys went off topic.

    So back on topic...... do you think the jazz can score without AL?
    Lol just kidding im done for the night and dont want to get into any more discussions...... besides i know what i saw (and liked) the last couple games and it didnt involve alot of big al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishonjazz View Post
    Now one more thing billy.
    You said in your previous post that against la we went to paul on the elbow for most of our offense along with transition ball.
    So the whole point of this thread is to wonder if we can score with out al.

    So: whether we give it paul on the elbow and get into transition or we pound it down low to kanter, we have in fact scored pretty well without al correct? (not trying to hate on al, i think he is a fine player by the way).
    All I've been saying is that it doesn't matter whether Al or Sap or Favors or Kanter are the dominant big men on a given night. What matters is that we cut and move without the ball on the perimeter. You will see plenty of "fun" offense and be very "entertained" with Al scoring in the post if we keep doing that. Or Millsap. Or Kanter. Or Favors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    I've followed every post. WTF is the conclusion already?
    I think the conclusion is that the jazz can in fact score without big al, but that there is still no ball movement without big al.

    Basically nothing changes without big al (according to billy) but we are more entertaining (according to me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    I've followed every post. WTF is the conclusion already?
    You can score without Al if somebody else does it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billyshelby View Post
    All I've been saying is that it doesn't matter whether Al or Sap or Favors or Kanter are the dominant big men on a given night. What matters is that we cut and move without the ball on the perimeter. You will see plenty of "fun" offense and be very "entertained" with Al scoring in the post if we keep doing that. Or Millsap. Or Kanter. Or Favors.
    Fair enough.
    I hope it starts happening when al is scoring in the post, but im not holding my breath..... i just hope we stop going to the post as often in the future. Though i understand that it is a neccessary thing to have in the offense, i just hope it happens less. I like the millsap on the elbow play

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Notes View Post
    You can score without Al if somebody else does it.
    Must spread rep around before repping you again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishonjazz View Post
    I think the conclusion is that the jazz can in fact score without big al, but that there is still no ball movement without big al.

    Basically nothing changes without big al (according to billy) but we are more entertaining (according to me)
    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Notes View Post
    You can score without Al if somebody else does it.
    LOL, why I love this board.
    #dumptruckin

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    Having Al is like having the big boat of a car that is mostly reliable and gets you to work, so you don't want to get rid of it, but it sucks gas like a tank and doesn't really warm up until right before you get to work. You don't want to get rid of it because it has always got you where you need to go, but the money you spend on gas is preventing you from doing the things you really want to do.

    Then you see a more efficient car, smaller with good gas mileage. It runs differently, maybe isn't quite as powerful, but much more efficient. And expensive. Quite a change, but maybe, just maybe, in the long run you will save money with the new car if you are willing to get rid of the old model.

    Just maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaticWolf View Post
    No. There is no circular logic. You are assuming that the wings are not cutting because Al has the ball.

    They are not cutting because they are having an off night, or their man defender is getting on their nerves, or they are too pansy to get in the thick of things and set screens.

    It has nothing to do with Al bro.
    You are a maniac if you think it has NOTHING to do with Al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaticWolf View Post
    We've been talking about ball movement for the past 10 pages.
    Not entirely. But your reduction goes well with your drab curtains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    I've followed every post. WTF is the conclusion already?
    People that don't like Al either don't breakdown the games like the smart guys or don't realize that if we trade him it'll be more of the same. This is true of all Trade-Al folks, and constitutes a complete argument for keeping him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    So I was very mad about the game, but I wasn't going to vent here, because you guys all feel the same way. However, Ty's postgame interview got my blood boiling. On why he let Trey and Gordon play while having bad games, "You gotta let them battle through it because that's what you gotta do." Really are you kidding me. You have to balls to say that when you pulled Alec after 16 minutes against LAC and Kanter got 19 minutes toinght?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
    You are a maniac if you think it has NOTHING to do with Al.
    The numbers support my side. Not yours.
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