Two types of tanking.
1. Tanking one year at a time with only one pick each year, hoping you nail it each time.
2. Tanking when you already have 4 great prospects, multiple upcoming picks, and nice veterans that you can trade for more picks, all the while increasing your chances ten fold that you can build a really good team because you have a lot of talent all at once, not just one maybe per year.
Big difference. Number 2 is what jazzfanz pro tankers had in mind. All that plus you give your young guys plenty of burn.
Oh well. Too late now. Its in the past.
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The Clippers had some awesome stretches of draft stinkers.
From '98 to '02, they drafted first, fourth, third, and second. Landing the Kandiman, Odom, Chadler, and Darius freaking Miles.
Four top four picks in a row and it lead to what? More lottery. I won't even get into the core they could've had built in those 4 drafts.
Then you have the 85-89 stretch. They picked third, fourth, first, and second. Almost identical to above, except they didn't have a first round pick in '86. That year, they would've had the number one pick, but they traded it for Kobe's dad 7 years ago.
Anyway, they took Benoit Benjamin, Reggie Williams, Danny Manning, and Danny Ferry. I'll concede that Manning was a hell of a player when healthy, but the players they could've had? Could've drafted a core of Malone, Pippen, Mitch Richmond and Tim Hardaway. Their number 1 pick in 1986 turned out to be Brad Daugherty. These five guys were basically the 1992 All-NBA first team.
Clippers are dumb. And I mean dumb. Not like other teams who occasionally make dumb moves, but like stick your wet fingers into a socket dumb.
1. Washington - Wall
2. Toronto - Lowry
3. Cleveland - Irving
4. New Orleans - Vasquez
5. Detroit - Knight
6. Phoenix - Dragic/Marshall
7. Sacramento - Brooks/Evans/Fredette
8. Charlotte - Walker
9. Orlando - Nelson
10. Lakers - Nash
11. Portland - Lillard
12. Houston - Lin
13. Denver - Lawson
I can only see a few teams here taking a PG in the lottery, especially since most of those teams who might (New Orleans, Toronto, Detroit) will likely be top-5 and there is no chance a PG will be taken that high, anyway. Orlando seems like the biggest threat to taking the best PG.
We'll just have to hope Curry and company get injured and give us a pick at 13/14. If that happens, I think we have a reasonable shot to get the best PG, even if he's considered top 10 on most teams' boards.
I thought they were pretenders with no capable center, but the victory over the Heat has me nervous.
I have curry and lee on my fantasy team and they are tearing it up!.... i had barnes (the guy they tanked for) but he has sucked really bad even with brandon rush hurt and getting more minutes so i dropped him.
The tanking of last year isn't really helping them much.... its mostly jarrett jack, curry, and lee that are getting it done for them. (although i was still in the wanting to miss the playoffs camp last year.)
Sad to be wishing for a Curry injury, but thats kind of where we are at. I still think the league should have fined the teams for tanking and restructure the draft so that the percentages and #'s of balls bouncing is closer after the first pick. But if we draft well we should be fine. I will say no one in this draft really excites me... next year is the draft that has a stud (Wiggins).
I'm not sure what the jazz play. It isn't basketball. Its a strange cross of Red Rover and inside out dodgeball.-Cathay Kelly, Toronto Star.
That's nothing.. I'd rather see an active Jazz player, actively joining our discussions. I just wanna run some of my ideas past them as well.
Their contract probably prevents him from posting in here, but that would be fun to see.[/QUOTE]
Pre-season mock (7/13/13) - page 111
PG are becoming extinct? We better force a couple of them to mate.
I think Chris Paul and Westbrook would be a good one.
Derrick Rose and Rondo?
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