And to be perfectly honest, maybe it's easy for me to say all this in my lower middle class home as a person who doesn't deal with cops on a regular basis or deal with their job. On a general note I do wonder that the fact that most people's experience with the police force almost exclusively is with them getting a ticket has change the public perception of the police for the worse (at least since the 50s and 60s). I remember my mom telling me that in her neighborhood there were a few beat cops who patrolled the area every day, many times on foot, and would talk to the neighbors. That has been non-existent in every neighborhood I lived in. Wonder if that's due to neighborhoods being more spread out in suburbia or something.
As for my experiences..... I have been arrested for possesion of marijuana, and for mooning (called ludeness to the law).
Also been given a ticket for jaywalking, and i was given an alcohol related reckless driving ticket once... the cop wanted to give me a DUI but i passed all his field sobriety tests, and blew a 0.03 on the breathalizer (i had 1 beer with dinner over a 2 hour period while watching a playoff game at a sports bar). When i went to court i asked the judge why i received the alcohol related wreckless driving ticket when the law states that i have to be over 0.08 to be breaking the law... The judge answered by saying it is up to each individual officers discretion on whether or not to write the ticket. So apparently if the police officer is racist, has something against men or women, or young people, or old people he can just write tickets for whoever the officer wants....There is no black and white letter of the law for citizens to follow, and in my opinion that gives the officer too much power.
One of my friends in high school.... at my school there were 2 full time cops patrolling the school at all times and i was goofing around and mooned my friend not know that one of the cops was in the hallway a little way back.
The wost part was that the cop yelled at me not to move and so i just stood there with my hands behind my back waiting for him and he grabbed my wrist from behind and slammed me against the brick wall, causing my head to get cup open.... Then he cuffed me and walked me to the pricipals office with my pants still down (underwear was back up at least) and sat me in a chair in the pricipals office with cuffs on and left me there.
This same police officer maced my best friend on another occasion while my friend was laying face down on the floor with the cop kneeling on his back...... dude was total dick.
Nate505 - I guess 7-11 cashiers have to walk into classrooms full of dead kids, have to see dead bodies regularly, have to walk into situations where the person they are there to get might really want to kill them, have to have ******* people chew them out for doing their job, yeah 7-11 cashiers have it rough.
Nate, in my understanding, the landscape of Law Enforcement has changed vastly post Rodney King regarding what you are talking about. A high calls-for-service volume and being judged on your response time to those calls has done away with beat cops in everywhere but the largest of cities. Efforts are in place, at least in Utah and I'm sure elsewhere to bring back the community police mentality, like Shop-with-a-Cop at Christmastime.
I'm not saying things don't happen. Like someone else said cops are human, but in my experience 99.5 are always trying to do the right thing. The other .5 get the media.
Erin Go Bragh
And yes I'm equating the two jobs, at least in terms of danger and dealing with undesirable people (remember, that is the point you initially made). Both professions face danger depending on where they happen to work. I guarantee you the average Lakewood cop has never seen dead bodies on a regular basis, considering the city averages a whopping 1-2 murders a year. In fact, according to the US Dept of Labor in 2009 52 convenience store workers were killed on the job compared to 46 police officers. I have no idea of what that breaks down per capita but I doubt one is much larger than the other. And plenty of ******** blast cashiers for doing their job. That's part of the deal when doing customer service, dealing with jackasses. None of that gives cops the right to be jerks to the public (you know, the ones who are taxed so they can receive a salary), especially since none of this is exactly hidden from them when they take the job, and since nobody is putting a gun to their head and forcing them to be a cop.
Last edited by Nate505; 12-15-2012 at 02:56 AM.
And I agree, I'm guessing cops that actually break rules are the small minority. I'm more worried about the good cops who see this and don't report them. In other words it's the age old adage of 'who polices the police.' If nobody does, well, it joins together closely with another adage that 'power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.'
As to your other theory on beat cops, I think that is a part of it. I also think that the "stop-snitching" culture, certain media bias, certain frivolous lawsuits, and a myriad of other factors play a role.
Erin Go Bragh
Are we talking about the NYPD or are you still media stained by the elementary school incident?
Hardly any of those things you described ever happen in the small town I live in, or the other thousands of small towns that most police patrol.
Police departments specifically bring in Napoleon complex type individuals, with high egos for a reason.
Most are short, fat, and were either picked on as a kid, or they were the former high school football fathead looking to relive his glory days.
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