UTAH vs PHOENIX,12/14/12 @ 7 p.m. MST

[billyshelby]

I don't get why do we talk so much about Favors, Al or Millsap. Our bigs are usually OK, they are all main strength regardless of who gets most minutes. This game, as in many others, it was our guards who disappeared on offense and were completely outplayed by their counterparts. Hayward and Foye are unbelivably streaky, Tinsley and watson have no offense and Mo is just OK most of the time.

We really need to upgrade our backcourt, otherwise we will be repeatedly outplayed in there.

Very valid point. If we had anything resembling a star guard we wouldn't be so focused on the failures of our bigs, or even our offense probably. But we can still do better with what we have.

[Cyrone Torbin]

I almost view this as a bigger test than San Antonio. Can we handle an inferior team on the road?

Answer was no.

[The Norm]

I am now convinced that this team will never figure it out on the road. It seems like they need people in the stands cheering for them in order for them to play worth a damn.

[Nate505]

I don't get it, but it's like whatever aggressive bone the team has in their body just dies on the road. When they got it to 4 points theyh quit playing defense and settled for jumper after jumper, and not shockingly they were down by 10 very quickly.

[Revolution 9]

Foye with 32 mins? What is Corbin love affair with this guy? ridiculous

Mo and Earl were awful.
Favors 17 mins 11 pts 8 boards. Corbin wake the **** up!
Carrol had an off game

Not too many bright spots. We just came back down to earth a little bit.
We can get that good feeling back with a win tonight against the Grizz

[franklin]

I'm chalking this one up as a team wide bad shooting night rather than our typical road loss. Jump shot misses led to fast break points. Carroll & Marvin @ 3 were the only bright spot. Hayward sucked so he couldn't back up Foye & Corbin was stuck with no 2 guard again. Foye needs to never shoot anything but a 3 again. Try to send a message to him with Haywad's inconsistency?
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Suns shot below average. Outside Dudley 9-12 and Dragic getting to the line, they weren't doing anything special. Jazz D get's a pass written by Jazz O -- that's sad.

[DutchJazzer]

I'm chalking this one up as a team wide bad shooting

Teamwide? jeffy foye and hayward are a combined 26% shooting

rest of team 50%


edit: to expand those 3 took 34 shots and scored 27 points
rest of team tok 48 shots and scored 57.

bravo. we need jefferson for OFFENSE

[franklin]

Why no mention of Haywad's 0-5?
Or Enes Kanter getting schooled by a grandfather?
I like how Derrick Favors got blocked 4 times.

[CitizenofCapua]

Interesting +/- stuff;

Jefferson -18
Mo -5
Foye -4
Marv -5
Sap -4

Interesting isn't it, they mostly played the same minutes but why there is a huge difference between them? Let me explain;

Jefferson played in 3 minutes differancial with Favors, till Kanter came in the game and in that 3 minutes for each half (in total 6 min.) he played with Watson, Favors, Carroll, Hayward. Corbin let Jefferson play 6 minutes with second unit but he is like a HIV virus, cause when he was playing with the second unit they were about -14/-13. And it was +1 for the second unit when Jeffy replaced with Kanter...

You can call it coincidence but i call it "negative efficiency" on both ends of the floor.

And the question is why the man with the best "negative" efficiency gets the most minutes in the game? Also why tolerate Foye's chucking insistency (3-13) and reward it with 32 min.?

[CitizenofCapua]

Why no mention of Haywad's 0-5?
Or Enes Kanter getting schooled by a grandfather?
I like how Derrick Favors got blocked 4 times.

Do you really think these are the main reasons why we lost this game?

Let's start with the last one;

He got blocked 4 times cause he was hustling for putbacks (like Jeffy's never do, or not able to do), if you are trying to do it, then you are an easy target for getting block by opponents. Cause you are not the only person who hustles for a rebound at the paint. It's hard to hide the ball in that traffic. And if im not mistaken each 2 of them was in the same position.

Kanter "schooled" by J.O'Neal and it costed us 2 points. What a dissapointment. We should trade him.

You may be right about Hayward, he was off tonight but it didnt hurt us like Foye's amazing 3-13 shooting performance.

[CitizenofCapua]

Also whats Corbin's criteria for deciding to play Tinsley or Watson? Is he tossing a coin? Heads for Tinley, tails for Watson?

[midnight_hwy]

Also whats Corbin's criteria for deciding to play Tinsley or Watson? Is he tossing a coin? Heads for Tinley, tails for Watson?

I think Ty has them draw straws before the game.

It's apparent that Ty is only going to use one of the two per game regardless of how the chosen backup point guard is playing.
I don't agree with this, but I think a lot of us don't agree with the way the players are used in the games.

[fishonjazz]

Why no mention of Haywad's 0-5?
Or Enes Kanter getting schooled by a grandfather?
I like how Derrick Favors got blocked 4 times.

Wrong on favors..... He was 4 of 8 from the field and remember one miss on a putback dunk attemp that was not blocked, so the most times possible for him to be blocked was 3.

[fishonjazz]

Also whats Corbin's criteria for deciding to play Tinsley or Watson? Is he tossing a coin? Heads for Tinley, tails for Watson?

Its the exact same way he decides playing time.... he has favorites and doesn't seem to care who deserves the minutes.

[franklin]

Do you really think these are the main reasons why we lost this game?

Let's start with the last one;

He got blocked 4 times cause he was hustling for putbacks (like Jeffy's never do, or not able to do), if you are trying to do it, then you are an easy target for getting block by opponents. Cause you are not the only person who hustles for a rebound at the paint. It's hard to hide the ball in that traffic. And if im not mistaken each 2 of them was in the same position.

Kanter "schooled" by J.O'Neal and it costed us 2 points. What a dissapointment. We should trade him.

You may be right about Hayward, he was off tonight but it didnt hurt us like Foye's amazing 3-13 shooting performance.

Three posts bro.