What is it about Gordon Kirilenko that makes me cringe half the time? When he shoots the ball I have no confidence he will make it. When he drives I'm sure he will lose the ball. He does make some nice off the ball blocks and seems to be a better one on one defender than he gets credit for. Sounds a lot like Andrei. I realize Gordon is young but let's hope he continues to develop. At least we can say we aren't paying him 17M.
That's the only part I had a problem with regarding AK.Originally Posted by Otis Day
If Gordon could be anywhere near the defensive player AK was I would be very excited. I like Hayward but while he is probably as good at man to man defense than Andrei he's not close to as good at help defense.
Just say no to Mo, Millsap, Jefferson and Ty. All right at least the 1st 3. We are probably stuck with the worst of the group.
16.5 PTs
8.1 rebounds
3.1 assists
1.9 steals
2.8 blocks
Started every game
If Hayward were putting up these stats this year he'd get a max
Last edited by JayCamjazzfan; 12-19-2012 at 06:56 PM.
You mean AK in the early years right? I really wasn't impressed with his every day performance later in his career with us.
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Please don't compare Hayward to AK. He is not even close to his level and never be as good as AK was or is.
People should stop with unrealistic expectations for Hayward to turn into Ginobili, Hornacek or AK. Forget about it.
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Nope I meant all of Ak. The only real problem I ever had with AK was the salary.
Just say no to Mo, Millsap, Jefferson and Ty. All right at least the 1st 3. We are probably stuck with the worst of the group.
No he wouldn't. That's not max player stats. It wasn't when AK signed his either. I never liked that contract and I was very disappointed when they signed it.
Just say no to Mo, Millsap, Jefferson and Ty. All right at least the 1st 3. We are probably stuck with the worst of the group.
Hayward needs to start missing half of every season, crying to the media, complaining about his role, and disrespecting his hall of fame coach in public (or saying some no name coach in Europe would be better). Then we can compare him to AK.
Ah, Hayward just plays video games instead of reading Russian novels. Effect is the same.
When one door closes, another doesn't open....instead, I find myself being locked in a room with padded walls and no windows.
When Hayward gets a full color tattoo that covers his whole back, of his character in a video game, then we can talk about it being comparable to AK.
How is that not max player stats? A small forward that blocks 3 a game, steals 2 and gets 8 boards while putting up 16 points is almost impossible to find nowadays. That is for sure max player stats. Defensive player of the year stats
To me a max player is a guy that can carry a team to a victory in the playoffs. A guy with those stats is not that guy.
Just say no to Mo, Millsap, Jefferson and Ty. All right at least the 1st 3. We are probably stuck with the worst of the group.
Or at least a guy that can carry a team to the playoffs, right?
AK's best season, the Jazz missed the playoffs. They added more talent after that so they could make the playoffs, and AK cried because he was no longer the best player on the team (and his role was reduced, accordingly).
I'm hoping for Hayward to turn in to Mike Dunleavy Jr at this point. Sigh.
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