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    I hate the trade.
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    As soon as I saw Alec Burks was involved in this trade, I immediately hated it.
    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thee jazz fan View Post
    Who? If you look at my earlier post I mentioned that this trade makes Foye and Marv expendable.
    Unless Corbin is included in that trade, Foye and Marvin will get heavy minutes.
    Marvin is a good player. But he went from a situation in ATlanta where he was an afterthought to one in Utah that is exactly the same. He just doesn't get any touches with the ball being dominated by Foye/Mo and Jefferson. It's an inside-outside game with that trio. Marvin could be a great contributor if he was given the ball regularly.
    When one door closes, another doesn't open....instead, I find myself being locked in a room with padded walls and no windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoTown16 View Post
    Unless Corbin is included in that trade, Foye and Marvin will get heavy minutes.
    Marvin is a good player. But he went from a situation in ATlanta where he was an afterthought to one in Utah that is exactly the same. He just doesn't get any touches with the ball being dominated by Foye/Mo and Jefferson. It's an inside-outside game with that trio. Marvin could be a great contributor if he was given the ball regularly.
    I agree with your Marvin Williams assessment. The same things that used to happen to Hayward in the starting line up, are the same things that happen to Marvin in that same line up.
    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

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    I couldn't help but notice that this trade makes both teams worse by at least 3 wins. And if both Redick and Afflalo are coming in, then Foye needs to be included in the deal for sure. Otherwise, Hayward and Burks don't get any more pt...

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    Marvin can be soft as hell. I still really like the Harris trade that brought him here, though.

    Could we use him better? Yes. but it isnt like he's waiting to blow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoTown16 View Post
    Unless Corbin is included in that trade, Foye and Marvin will get heavy minutes.
    Marvin is a good player. But he went from a situation in ATlanta where he was an afterthought to one in Utah that is exactly the same. He just doesn't get any touches with the ball being dominated by Foye/Mo and Jefferson. It's an inside-outside game with that trio. Marvin could be a great contributor if he was given the ball regularly.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilencer1313 View Post
    I agree with your Marvin Williams assessment. The same things that used to happen to Hayward in the starting line up, are the same things that happen to Marvin in that same line up.
    Funny thing is he's getting touches in the first and usually gets off to a good start, but then sits most of the rest of the first, and can't get back in rhythm the rest of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
    Picks. Baby can post well enough.

    Who here would deal Millsap + a lottery-protected first + a second rounder for Afflalo? How realistic is this?

    Hayward-Burks-Afflalo is a pretty nice.
    Did you consult our resident forward looking genius?

    http://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?3...hlight=afflalo

    Ah, how the tables have turned.
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    I'm not down on Hayward. But my opinion is both Burks and Bledsoe will be better players than he is if they're not already. It's that simple.
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    Maybe I just haven't seen enough of Porter, but I honestly wouldn't trade Burks for him.
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    I Garan"DAMN"te Burks will be better than Victor!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
    Marvin can be soft as hell. I still really like the Harris trade that brought him here, though.

    Could we use him better? Yes. but it isnt like he's waiting to blow up.
    Who?

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    Interesting, but the Magic aren't trading their 2 best G's. And Big Al and Big Baby would eat up all the paint...

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    Did you consult our resident forward looking genius?

    http://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?3...hlight=afflalo

    Ah, how the tables have turned.
    Your link no longer works.

    And, that you and I would land at a similar conclusion isn't all that surprising.

    That said, if I swing to the views of your Corby-loving alt, then take me out back and put me down.

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    Link works fine.
    Don't worry, you have 18 months to live before catching up and taken out back. By then you'll be comfortable enough to not want the bullet.
    Quote Originally Posted by billyshelby View Post
    I'm not down on Hayward. But my opinion is both Burks and Bledsoe will be better players than he is if they're not already. It's that simple.
    Quote Originally Posted by spycam1 View Post
    Maybe I just haven't seen enough of Porter, but I honestly wouldn't trade Burks for him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zulu View Post
    I Garan"DAMN"te Burks will be better than Victor!!

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