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    Quote Originally Posted by cctrackstar View Post
    Wow, Corbin gets a group of no name players into the playoffs last season and has a winning record with the worst schedule in the NBA and this is the thanks he gets? You want to know why Sloan/Corbin get the most out of less talented players? It's because they don't play them right away, they make them earn it and in doing so they learn what it takes to win.
    No name players? Toughest record? The Jazz' SOS is basically dead middle so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cctrackstar View Post
    Corbin's strength is offensive sets.
    If that is true, then we are ****ed.
    #loseeveryremaininggame

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    I have coached for 15 years in addition to playing and the first thing a coach does is take advantage of mismatches. There is no if and or buts about it. Corbin sucks at this. The most elementary thing a coach does.

    I want van Gundy

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    Quote Originally Posted by cctrackstar View Post
    Corbin's strength is offensive sets. Perhaps he is a little behind on deciding substitution patterns but that is easier to pick up then offensive sets. I still maintain that the stuff he isn't good at can be learned by anyone.
    Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, and my opinion is that your's sucks.

    1-- "Corbin's strength is offensive sets." Do you even watch the games? This team is the worst Jazz team in running offensive sets since the team moved to Utah. Harpring has been caught on the air wondering if this team knows how to run an offensive set.

    2-- "Perhaps he is a little behind on deciding substitution patterns but that is easier to pick up then offensive sets." A little behind??? This is a guy who has NEVER made a strategic substitution to start the second half. If you and your assistants can't figure out what to do during half-time, then you sure as hell can't figure it out while the game is being played.

    3-- "I still maintain that the stuff he isn't good at can be learned by anyone." Coaches are not drafted, they are hired. They're supposed to know how to coach the game by the time they become Head Coach. Sure, they don't know it all and they'll continue to learn the nuances until they retire; but a rookie coach damn well better have a steep learning curve or he has no business being a head coach. Corbin has been the head coach for going on two years, and he's no better today than when Sloan quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cctrackstar View Post
    Corbin's strength is offensive sets. Perhaps he is a little behind on deciding substitution patterns but that is easier to pick up then offensive sets. I still maintain that the stuff he isn't good at can be learned by anyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipse View Post
    Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, and my opinion is that your's sucks.

    1-- "Corbin's strength is offensive sets." Do you even watch the games? This team is the worst Jazz team in running offensive sets since the team moved to Utah. Harpring has been caught on the air wondering if this team knows how to run an offensive set.

    2-- "Perhaps he is a little behind on deciding substitution patterns but that is easier to pick up then offensive sets." A little behind??? This is a guy who has NEVER made a strategic substitution to start the second half. If you and your assistants can't figure out what to do during half-time, then you sure as hell can't figure it out while the game is being played.

    3-- "I still maintain that the stuff he isn't good at can be learned by anyone." Coaches are not drafted, they are hired. They're supposed to know how to coach the game by the time they become Head Coach. Sure, they don't know it all and they'll continue to learn the nuances until they retire; but a rookie coach damn well better have a steep learning curve or he has no business being a head coach. Corbin has been the head coach for going on two years, and he's no better today than when Sloan quit.
    I agree with both of these arguments

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weezur View Post
    I agree with both of these arguments

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    Also.... learn how to quote.
    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xthren View Post
    I have coached for 15 years in addition to playing and the first thing a coach does is take advantage of mismatches. There is no if and or buts about it. Corbin sucks at this. The most elementary thing a coach does.

    I want van Gundy
    You've been a coach for 15 years and haven't noticed Corbin doing this every single game? The guy has even explained what matchups he's trying to exploit on certain nights. He also talked to grantland about trying to get this team to where they can impose their will onto teams instead of having to adjust to what they are doing.

    But hey, Fire Ty because a losing ball club lost in limbo is too much for Jazz fans to handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    You've been a coach for 15 years and haven't noticed Corbin doing this every single game? The guy has even explained what matchups he's trying to exploit on certain nights. He also talked to grantland about trying to get this team to where they can impose their will onto teams instead of having to adjust to what they are doing.

    But hey, Fire Ty because a losing ball club lost in limbo is too much for Jazz fans to handle.
    I agree that Ty is a pretty good coach. I was actually rooting for Ty to have the balls enough to let Foye go for the win in that game.
    But I doubt even Corbin wanted Foye to end up in a one on one situation.

    The inbound just wasn't good enough to get Foye a good shot off of the curl.
    This is why I concur with you on the addition of the picket line play in these type of situations.
    Teams just don't know where players are going to end up out of that play.
    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Just saw this tweet from Bill Oram at sltrib.

    @tribjazz: Corbin says he left Al Jeff in at end of game on D for ensuing offensive possession. Still, no guarantee Jazz get ball back if no foul.

    If Corbin is stupid enough to believe that CP3 wasn't going to make sure he left no time on the clock for another possession for the Jazz then he is just beyond help.

    This seals it for me. Count me in on the fire Corbin movement.

    Any coach that approaches this that way is hopeless.

    Game was tied. Clippers get the last shot unless we foul them.

    This is just...wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durrrr View Post
    Just saw this tweet from Bill Oram at sltrib.

    @tribjazz: Corbin says he left Al Jeff in at end of game on D for ensuing offensive possession. Still, no guarantee Jazz get ball back if no foul.

    If Corbin is stupid enough to believe that CP3 wasn't going to make sure he left no time on the clock for another possession for the Jazz then he is just beyond help.

    This seals it for me. Count me in on the fire Corbin movement.

    Any coach that approaches this that way is hopeless.

    Game was tied. Clippers get the last shot unless we foul them.

    This is just...wow
    Yep, when I read that tweet I thought Corbin was full of malarky.
    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    So I was very mad about the game, but I wasn't going to vent here, because you guys all feel the same way. However, Ty's postgame interview got my blood boiling. On why he let Trey and Gordon play while having bad games, "You gotta let them battle through it because that's what you gotta do." Really are you kidding me. You have to balls to say that when you pulled Alec after 16 minutes against LAC and Kanter got 19 minutes toinght?

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    I'd rather have Sidney Lowe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Jazz Fan View Post
    I'd rather have Sidney Lowe...
    Take it back

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