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    3 Scenario's that should have been with last years Golden State Pick

    I am still ticked off about their epic tank job last year by GSW's, which I feel should have been fined by the league. With the 8th pick we could have easily moved up with Sac to get Lillard (preferred), or stayed where we were and taken my other favorite player Andre Drummond who I felt was one of the all star level players coming out of this draft (Anthony Davis, Lillard and Drummond).

    This would have given us options with Kanter and Favors and would have likely pushed forward the trade of Al or Paul to last off season (which likely would have garnered more than we will fetch for them at the trade deadline). Still just so disappointed about the result of last seasons tank job, and it makes it worse that they are likely to make the playoffs this year in an even weaker draft.

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    Don't have too much to add. I really thought, at this time last year, that we'd be a lock to be able to land Lillard.

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    We'd have gotten Lilliard easy with 8th pick + Al or Sap to Sacto. Sacto didn't want that pick, I can tell. I'm a gypsy.

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    I only see two scenarios, but either would've just been okay solutions here. If we drafted Lillard I'd be shocked if he was anywhere near close to ROY discussion. We'd bring him along slowly like always playing behind Tinsley and Watson........ I don't think we would've drafted Drummond in any situation with that pick.

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    I think it's pretty clear now that the GSW's model of tank one year (playing the rookies heavy minutes), pick up a good player, and excel the next is better than getting in the playoffs as the 8th seed playing your vets (and not giving the rookies much playing time), and coming out empty handed at the draft.

    Oh well, you live and learn.
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    I understand why you would think the front office would pass on Drummond given our glut of big men, but I know that KOC follows chad fords tier system when drafting, and Drummond was and is a player that could end up being the best in this draft so thre was no way at 8 the Jazz would have bypassed the top tiered players in the draft to reach for a player in tier 4. Drummond was pegged by many teams as the #2 player in the draft and just missed being in tier 2 overall... but his play this year is proving he deserved tier 2 alone with Lillard.

    Also, as far as bringing Lillard along slow thats fine.... At least we would have him to groom as our future starting PG.

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    What I don't understand is how the Spurs got fined a quarter million dollars for resting their best players during a road heavy stretch against a team they'd most likely lose to-- yet teams like the Warriors pull off the most blatant, obvious, disgusting, shameless tank job I have ever ****ing seen, and the NBA is totally cool with it.
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    Exactly!

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    I'm not sure Portland would have traded us Lillard if they keyed in on him as the guy they wanted at #6. We could have gotten a good player in the lottery though.

    I think Houston also tanked into the lottery and prevented us from getting a #13 pick. They lost 7 of their last 8 games and played some funky line-ups. That was unexpected too. We could have drafted a decent player at #13 or #14 last year.

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    Let me put some worms in that wound.

    Lilliard with 17 points, 11 assists, and 8 rebounds
    This dude is getting Lebron stats in his rookie year.

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    And we are about to get stuck with a 20 something pick in a bad draft. Still wish Stern would have rigged that coin flip and taken care of the Jazz and their Deron Williams trade the same way he took care of Nola when they traded CP3. It was bad for the league for the Warriors to do that... we would have easily gotten Lillard and if not we would have taken another stud Big man (Drummond).

    I hate to say it but I am almost pulling for an injury on GS to affect their team... not really but almost.

    It just stinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weezur View Post
    Let me put some worms in that wound.

    Lilliard with 17 points, 11 assists, and 8 rebounds
    This dude is getting Lebron stats in his rookie year.
    It may ease your pain to know that Tinsley and Watson would be getting all of the minutes over Lilliard any way. Liiliard would be getting 5-10 garbage minutes per game until he put his 10-15 years into the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotttnickkk View Post
    I think it's pretty clear now that the GSW's model of tank one year (playing the rookies heavy minutes), pick up a good player, and excel the next is better than getting in the playoffs as the 8th seed playing your vets (and not giving the rookies much playing time), and coming out empty handed at the draft.

    Oh well, you live and learn.
    This. I still dont understand why coach/front office couldn't see this. But of course some on this think getting the 8th seed and getting crushed by San Antonio was better than getting a lottery pick. Oh well. Looks like we might be continuing down the same path instead of picking up young players we still sign older vets for one year. Dont get it.

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    Let's move on. The milk is spilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotttnickkk View Post
    I think it's pretty clear now that the GSW's model of tank one year (playing the rookies heavy minutes), pick up a good player, and excel the next is better than getting in the playoffs as the 8th seed playing your vets (and not giving the rookies much playing time), and coming out empty handed at the draft.

    Oh well, you live and learn.
    I disagree, the reason we are getting our a** kicked is because Ty refuses to run an effective offense and defense. He also refuses to play the youngsters. If we did tank and somehow get Lilliard Ty wouldn't play him anyway.

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