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    Has there ever been a player who admitted to getting his coach fired?

    Even Dwight Howard would deny getting/asking Stan Van to be fired. Oh wait, it already happened:

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    People forget, for weeks Duron had been having a war of words through the media against Sloan. From the way they practiced, their lineups, to their (lack) of film. There was a (visible) growing divide between Duron and Jerry even at the games. You could see it.

    People at the Chicago game (how ironic was that??? Given the history of Jerry and the 2 teams...) heard/saw Sloan get super upset right before the half when Jerry called a play and Duron refused to run it. They had a massive blowup at half. KOC was involved. Jerry came back into the game silent and unemotional, something completely absent from his 20 year coaching career. He later resigned after the game. Pretty obvious what happened folks. Although Phil Johnson "claims" that he left because of his pact with Sloan the truth is that is only a partial reason why. The other reason why is because it looked like Duron had become the god of the franchise. Phil didn't want any of that.

    Jerry wanted Duron traded. Duron wanted Jerry fired. And.... Well... Essentially both happened. Jerry wasn't necessarily fired. But his hand was forced when management didn't do what Sloan, the coach, wanted. The management finally woke up and saw what Melo was doing to Denver, what Lebron had already done to Cleveland, etc and made a move. It was obvious that Duron wasn't going to stay in Utah, even with Jslo gone. That deal with the Nets had most likely been talked about prior to Jerry's "retirement." The blowup with Jerry, the failing of the team, and Duron's attitude merely pushed KOC over the edge to make that deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    Here's the thing, if dwill said "people think I was the reason sloan got fired" you might have a point. However he said people think I GOT sloan fired. These are not the same things. Therefor you are being a moran. An amusing moran, but a moran nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thriller View Post
    People forget, for weeks Duron had been having a war of words through the media against Sloan. From the way they practiced, their lineups, to their (lack) of film. People at the game heard/saw Sloan get super upset right before the half when Jerry called a play and Duron refused to run it. They had a massive blowup at half. KOC was involved. Jerry came back into the game silent and unemotional, something completely absent from his 20 year coaching career. He later resigned after the game. Pretty obvious what happened folks.

    Jerry wanted Duron traded. Duron wanted Jerry fired. And.... Well... Essentially both happened. Jerry wasn't necessarily fired. But his hand was forced when management didn't do what Sloan, the coach, wanted. The management finally woke up and saw what Melo was doing to Denver, what Lebron had already done to Cleveland, etc and made a move. It was obvious that Duron wasn't going to stay in Utah, even with Jslo gone.
    But obviously they told Sloan Dwill was out the door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown View Post
    But obviously they told Sloan Dwill was out the door.
    The Jazz didn't make the decision to trade Dwill until after Jerry quit, the team was still very mediocre, Duron still wasn't super happy, and the Jazz front office finally realized the hell which was awaiting them. They recognized that if they didn't act quickly they'd end up like Cleveland.

    If anything, Jslo demanded KOC make that trade with the Nets. From what I've gathered, that trade with the Nets had been kicked around for some time. KOC, at that time, refused. I believe he was merely going to suspend him or something. That wasn't good enough for Jerry. Jerry quit. It was only after when KOC finally pulled the trigger. Had KOC backed Jerry up at the half of that Chicago game and agreed to move Duron via the trade with the Nets that night, I have no doubt in my mind that Dfavors, Kanter, etc would be rolling with a HOF coach, not Ty Corbin, right now.

    One of my sources comes from one of the Football coaches who my Dad has worked with for years. He has connections to the Sloan family. Jerry CANNOT STAND Duron. "He has never coached a more selfish player in his life." I believe that was the exact quote.

    I cannot stand Duron. While Jslo killed me sometimes... He was 100x better than 99.9 percent of NBA coaches out there. and at least 1000x better than Ty Corbin.

    One of the greatest coaching jobs I've ever seen was the Jazz team who played against the Nugheads. Memo's career had essentially ended. AK47 was injured. Boozer was a pansie ass. Yet.... The lone matchup we had, was Jerry Sloan kicking Adrian Dantley's ass. Jazz quickly dumped the Nugheads after a bad game 1 loss.

    Jerry, even at his latter stages, could still coach the hell out of teams.

    True, Pops and Phil Jackson were better... But then again, Pops and Phil Jackson are probably in the top 3 coaches of all-time.

    People tend to forget how truly godlike some of our legends were. Jerry, Stockton, and Malone, were just plain awesome. Especially when you consider the league today, with so many pansie ass jackwagons who take nights off and just don't give a damn. If Dwight Howard had half the work ethic and toughness that Malone had, he'd be averaging 40 pts per game and be leading the Lakers to a championship.

    I'd take Stockton and Malone at age 50+ over the crap we have right now at the point and freaking Big Al and his pansie ass weezy.

    Even if Favors blows up and becomes an all-star, I doubt he'll be loyal like Jerry, Stockton, and Malone. He'll probably take his talents to South Beach or Los Angeles leaving us in the dust.
    Sloan, Stockton, and Malone failed at getting that championship. But no one can deny that they truly were special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thriller View Post
    People forget, for weeks Duron had been having a war of words through the media against Sloan. From the way they practiced, their lineups, to their (lack) of film. There was a (visible) growing divide between Duron and Jerry even at the games. You could see it.

    People at the Chicago game (how ironic was that??? Given the history of Jerry and the 2 teams...) heard/saw Sloan get super upset right before the half when Jerry called a play and Duron refused to run it. They had a massive blowup at half. KOC was involved. Jerry came back into the game silent and unemotional, something completely absent from his 20 year coaching career. He later resigned after the game. Pretty obvious what happened folks. Although Phil Johnson "claims" that he left because of his pact with Sloan the truth is that is only a partial reason why. The other reason why is because it looked like Duron had become the god of the franchise. Phil didn't want any of that.

    Jerry wanted Duron traded. Duron wanted Jerry fired. And.... Well... Essentially both happened. Jerry wasn't necessarily fired. But his hand was forced when management didn't do what Sloan, the coach, wanted. The management finally woke up and saw what Melo was doing to Denver, what Lebron had already done to Cleveland, etc and made a move. It was obvious that Duron wasn't going to stay in Utah, even with Jslo gone. That deal with the Nets had most likely been talked about prior to Jerry's "retirement." The blowup with Jerry, the failing of the team, and Duron's attitude merely pushed KOC over the edge to make that deal.
    Pretty much spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown View Post
    You're cute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thriller View Post
    People tend to forget how truly godlike some of our legends were. Jerry, Stockton, and Malone, were just plain awesome. Especially when you consider the league today, with so many pansie ass jackwagons who take nights off and just don't give a damn. If Dwight Howard had half the work ethic and toughness that Malone had, he'd be averaging 40 pts per game and be leading the Lakers to a championship.
    so true

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    I'm glad both are gone. I hate Jerry Sloan towards the end. Not saying Tyrone Corbin is any better, just I wanted Sloan gone too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown View Post
    Even Dwill does:





    The dude stepped down after the Jazz begged him to stay. No way would Sloan ever get FIRED!



    Stupid Dwill and media.
    You should be careful who you call stupid. I think you need to work on your reading comprehension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown View Post
    He should have said "people think I'm the reason Sloan stepped down"


    Look at twitter or media stories. Many sources keep referring to Sloan getting "fired". Even Charles Barkley said it on NBA TV.
    Bean, Deron said it exactly right. He was talking about perception, not reality. Learn the difference. As your post even states "Many sources keep referring to Sloan getting "fired".

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    The worst thing we should take out of all of this is knowing Beanclown has procreated.

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    This is the exact quote from your original post bean:
    I already went through that situation once when people thought I got Coach Sloan fired.
    The only thing I did was change where the bold was. Read it again and tell me where it says Deron thinks he got Sloan fired. Everybody here but you is reading it the same way.

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    This is something I shared with the STG boys at our get together in November but have never shared here Cuz I was only following JazzFanz when it happened!!

    About 2 or 3 weeks before Jerry stepped down I was talking with my buddy in a biology Lab at Dixie State College, we were shooting the bull about the Jazz like we commonly do.

    A girl then interrupted us and started to say how Jerry hates Deron and has been trying to get management to trade him. She said that Jerry couldn't deal with Deron's crap anymore and that they need to pick either him or Deron. She claimed that she was a friend of Jerry's new wife's family and that is how she came about this info!

    My friend and I looked at each other and after she left started to laugh, we didn't believe a word she said Cuz the miracle in Miami just happened as well as all those comeback wins!!

    We were both blown away when Jerry stepped down there after!!
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