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    Quote Originally Posted by NUMBERICA View Post
    Jeremy Lin is literally the most overrated player in the NBA.
    Holy **** this.

    Sap and Hay for him? Lmfao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
    Ok, "steep" I'll buy. Take a pick away.

    But "lateral" I won't buy, since moving equal talent to any other position would be great. In fact that is exactly what this trade attempts to do.
    Afflalo is a lesser talent to Millsap. Hayward rates better than Afflalo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NUMBERICA View Post
    With regards to the OP, where's Foye going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    Lin's young, starting there and they're playing very good ball. Why would they trade him for an older, oft-injured, and possibly soon-to-be-retiring Pau Gasol? Try harder.
    The Rockets had been going hard after Gasol this offseason. Thought they even had a deal at one point but don't remember what happened to it. I think there's definite interest there and Gasol is a better fit for them than Lin with the Harden in the stable.

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    Afflalo is just 27. He's played under 10,000 minutes in his career as compared to say Kobe who's played over 43,000. To even suggest that he is or will soon be old and wearing down, which is essentially what you're saying, is just dumb.

    Again, this deal makes zero sense for them. He's their best player. They're trying to build something there while simultaneously stripping themselves of bad contracts of guys who aren't in their future plans. To strip themselves of their best player (on a very solid contract as candrew noted) is dumb, end of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyshelby View Post
    The Rockets had been going hard after Gasol this offseason. Thought they even had a deal at one point but don't remember what happened to it. I think there's definite interest there and Gasol is a better fit for them than Lin with the Harden in the stable.
    That might have been a move to help attract FA's. Now that they have a big name, pursuing such may be moot. I'm just specualting of course but that's what I would think. And again, they're playing very well. If I'm then, I don't do it. Heck, their PG's left would be Toney Douglas and Scott Machado. And I know Harden is the facilitator a lot but so is Lin. Wih Lin gone who would then break teams down to get Harden the ball? For me, it doesn't make sense unless you can get a PG back from a third team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUMBERICA View Post
    Jeremy Lin is literally the most overrated player in the NBA.
    Disagree, but at worst he's only slightly worse than Hayward and he's a better piece going forward, pre-signed at a reasonable deal for the next 3.

    I'd love to see him as our PG, but the larger point is use Hayward/Sap/Al in any configuration to get a high ceiling 1 or 2 that can make Favors/Kanter better and be a threat to drive.

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    He will get old and die one day. Ask your mommy.

    He'll be well on the other side of 30 before the Magic are relevant. Do you think they should keep him and remain where they are (in the late lottery)? Isn't this exactly what you repeatedly rail against the jazz for doing?

    Neither of these things are dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    That might have been a move to help attract FA's. Now that they have a big name, pursuing such may be moot. I'm just specualting of course but that's what I would think. And again, they're playing very well. If I'm then, I don't do it. Heck, their PG's left would be Toney Douglas and Scott Machado. And I know Harden is the facilitator a lot but so is Lin. Wih Lin gone who would then break teams down to get Harden the ball? For me, it doesn't make sense unless you can get a PG back from a third team.
    Put Mo Williams in the deal and get some shiny objects back from Houston. I don't know. Houston is 6th in the standings and Pau is better than any big they have. I think they'd have interest, but I also don't know how fundamentally important they think Lin is to their attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    Not to mention this isn't happening. Why would they trade him for a guy who isn't playing well? For a guy who would simply take time away from a young frontline in Vucevic, Nicholson, and Harkless.

    Now, Burks and Millsap may work but I doubt they would even do that. It just doesn't make sense based on how their roster is constructed.
    I posted something similar to this during the jazz Orlando game, and got shut down by most

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    Lin isn't "high ceiling." You're seeing it right now.

    Hayward can be a better player. I hope he gets a shot to be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billyshelby View Post
    Put Mo Williams in the deal and get some shiny objects back from Houston. I don't know. Houston is 6th in the standings and Pau is better than any big they have. I think they'd have interest, but I also don't know how fundamentally important they think Lin is to their attack.
    That works. What shiny objects are you thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
    Lin isn't "high ceiling." You're seeing it right now.

    Hayward can be a better player. I hope he gets a shot to be it.
    Hayward hasn't been given a shot with 30 minutes per night the last couple years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
    He will get old and die one day. Ask your mommy.

    He'll be well on the other side of 30 before the Magic are relevant. Do you think they should keep him and remain where they are (in the late lottery)? Isn't this exactly what you repeatedly rail against the jazz for doing?

    Neither of these things are dumb.
    Actually, this is not what I rail against the Jazz for doing. The fact that you can't distinguish between the two is not surprising though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    That works. What shiny objects are you thinking?
    Yeah, that's tricky. The Morris kid would be a fit, but doubt they'd do it. Douglas is useful, that Greg Smith kid might be a nice prospect. But I'd give away value on that deal if we were getting Lin.

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