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Thread: Did the Jazz Screw Up in Trading for Big Al?

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    Did the Jazz Screw Up in Trading for Big Al?

    Looking back the Jazz gave up plenty of value for Al. Looking backing Boozer was gone along with Kyle Korver. Suddenly a big was needed. Kosta was shipped in the deal along with a boat load of draft picks. I was just eyeballing the stat line of Kenneth Faried and Kosta and came to the revelation they would have been nice pieces on the Jazz. Also if they kept Kostas and not traded for Al perhaps they match for Wesley Matthews. Just sayin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by homeytennis View Post
    Looking back the Jazz gave up plenty of value for Al. Looking backing Boozer was gone along with Kyle Korver. Suddenly a big was needed. Kosta was shipped in the deal along with a boat load of draft picks. I was just eyeballing the stat line of Kenneth Faried and Kosta and came to the revelation they would have been nice pieces on the Jazz. Also if they kept Kostas and not traded for Al perhaps they match for Wesley Matthews. Just sayin....
    Based off of Deron's patience, not, they made the right move. I bet Deron is wishing that he could be playing on this team right now.


    I know that it is not realistic because a good chuck of this team is from the Dwill trade.
    Cy is a Baker, he doesn't work fast food. Don't make that mistake, he doesn't like it.

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    Two non-lottery picks doesn't really make up a boat load....

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    I wasn't much of a Big Al fan at the time, but I still thought it was a worthwhile gamble. Koufos, Montiejunas and another pick (which one?) isn't much to give up for a player who was still young and produced on a ****ty team. Not everything works out in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
    I wasn't much of a Big Al fan at the time, but I still thought it was a worthwhile gamble. Koufos, Montiejunas and another pick (which one?) isn't much to give up for a player who was still young and produced on a ****ty team. Not everything works out in the end.
    As long as Jefferson is gone by next season I am fine counting this as a teaching experience.
    Cy is a Baker, he doesn't work fast food. Don't make that mistake, he doesn't like it.

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    The Jazz could still trade Jefferson....at least for the likes of Koufos or Buddinger.
    Players I like in the 2015 draft:


    Umm... Lyles. Yeah, Lyles.

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    How much can we value the offense he's taught to Kanter/Favors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weezur View Post
    How much can we value the offense he's taught to Kanter/Favors?
    I think that it can work for Kanter but Favors is a PNR big man.
    Cy is a Baker, he doesn't work fast food. Don't make that mistake, he doesn't like it.

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    If anything, the only error they made on the Jefferson trade is not doing it sooner. I think they held onto Boozer too long. They should have shipped him off as soon as they knew he wasn't part of the future. I wonder if they could have traded Boozer's expiring contract and a pick at midseason for Jefferson. Thereby saving Koufos and one of the picks.

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    LOL - I can not believe I'm reading a thread lamenting the loss of Kosta Koufos. While he was here, he had to be the most ridiculed Jazz player in the history of this board - and that's saying a hella lot.

    Everyone blew me off (at first) when I said he'd have a longer career than Fesenko.

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    I think the Heat should have picked up Fessenko. He'd help them with defense and rebounds.
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    Umm... Lyles. Yeah, Lyles.


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    Yes it was a screw up.

    The word was already out on Jeffy and how he was a no defense black hole. Jazz management should have done there homework. There were people on this board who knew what Al was about. Numberica is one of them that comes to mind. Now how the **** does Numberica know more about a player than Jazz management? Its because they aren't as smart as everyone around here makes them out to be. They need to stop getting a ****ing pass on everything. Our management isn't that great. They aren't the worst, but they surely aren't the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
    I wasn't much of a Big Al fan at the time, but I still thought it was a worthwhile gamble. Koufos, Montiejunas and another pick (which one?) isn't much to give up for a player who was still young and produced on a ****ty team. Not everything works out in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
    I wasn't much of a Big Al fan at the time, but I still thought it was a worthwhile gamble. Koufos, Montiejunas and another pick (which one?) isn't much to give up for a player who was still young and produced on a ****ty team. Not everything works out in the end.
    EDIT:

    I mostly agree with this, but I was livid with the trade at the time because I hated how Al played and I couldn't imagine how that lead-footed, molasses-brained loser was going to be the focal point of an offense predicated on a lot of screening, motion, and ball movement. I certainly agree with the last part after I got a bigger picture of the thing and calmed down. But it didn't pass the taste test when I heard the rumors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberica View Post
    yep.
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