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    Quote Originally Posted by JGolds View Post
    i guess we desagree on that point. paul will fit into basically any teams offense that he is traded to, jefferson has to have an offense built to fit him. paul is addaptable, jefferlog not so much.
    Not only that, but it's much more difficult to come up with a trade that works if you have to match salaries...isn't Al making like 15 mil this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermin View Post
    Al right bro, i hope sirkicky does not sue me or try to take my pants off.

    1. J smith
    2. UR Gay
    3. AL
    4. D Granger
    5. Gortat
    6. Bargs
    7. B Jennings
    8. Bledsoe
    9. Cousins
    10. Rondo.
    I maintain my conviction that LAC would love Millsap. If they are willing to part with Bledsoe, then that is a deal I hope we pursue with some seriousness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUMBERICA View Post
    What gives you that indication? That the Jazz haven't shown the slightest bit of interest in extending him?
    I agree. The FO offered Millsap an extension but not Big Al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
    I maintain my conviction that LAC would love Millsap. If they are willing to part with Bledsoe, then that is a deal I hope we pursue with some seriousness.
    Millsap will not extend with a team he doesn't start on, or at least all indications appear that way. That would be the main hangup in a LAC deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermin View Post
    Al right bro, i hope sirkicky does not sue me or try to take my pants off.

    1. J smith
    2. UR Gay
    3. AL
    4. D Granger
    5. Gortat
    6. Bargs
    7. B Jennings
    8. Bledsoe
    9. Cousins
    10. Rondo.

    Bah. Whatever.

    I have a hard time believing any of those players get traded. I bet none of those players are traded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
    I agree. The FO offered Millsap an extension but not Big Al.
    Millsap could have been extended much more cheaply than Jefferson. Jefferson would be a bargain at Millsap's salary, and Millsap far overpaid at Jefferson's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
    I agree. The FO offered Millsap an extension but not Big Al.
    The extension offered to Millsap was for the max available under NBA rules. It was strictly a PR move as both sides knew it was far below market value. The same type of extension was not available to Jefferson. Can't read anything into it. I still maintain that Millsap will be seeking at least a $60M/5 yr. deal. And someone will pay Jefferson $14M/yr. Good centers are in short supply and thus overpaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz4ever View Post
    Millsap will not extend with a team he doesn't start on.
    Not sure how you missed this, but Millsap will not extend with a team. His extension can only be percentage raises from his existing salary, and he's been underpaid by at least $2 million per year for the previous two seasons.
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    I am a huge fan of Paul, but the practical side of me says he does not fit. It will be tough to demote him back to the bench. He is a lower tier starter, but would dominate off the bench IF he could accept that.

    From another angle, if Koufus can go from a 3rd/4th big to a starter/rotation guy, what do Kanter and Favors do with a legitimate chance to start with no associated drama? I remember thinking Koufus would be out of the league soon after he left.

    I wonder what Jefferson would say to a bench role? Not immediately, but as Kanter and Favors progress?

    If a championship is the goal, either Paul or Al works off the bench, otherwise a change in direction is needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUMBERICA View Post
    Not sure how you missed this, but Millsap will not extend with a team. His extension can only be percentage raises from his existing salary, and he's been underpaid by at least $2 million per year for the previous two seasons.
    Yeah I meant to say resigns, but the principle remains the same - he probably wouldn't want to come off the bench in LA as that "less athletic hustle guy" who spells Blake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermin View Post
    Al right bro, i hope sirkicky does not sue me or try to take my pants off.
    1. J smith
    2. UR Gay
    3. AL
    4. D Granger
    5. Gortat
    6. Bargs
    7. B Jennings
    8. Bledsoe
    9. Cousins
    10. Rondo.
    You should be fine. Rocye Webb from ESPN even tweeted the list with a link to the Insider article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz4ever View Post
    Millsap will not extend with a team he doesn't start on, or at least all indications appear that way. That would be the main hangup in a LAC deal.

    Sometimes players are willing to compromise if they feel they have a legitimate chance at a championship on said team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
    Sometimes players are willing to compromise if they feel they have a legitimate chance at a championship on said team.
    That's true, but I think Millsap will go for what will likely be the biggest contract he'll get and then be willing to compromise at the end of that contract provided he hasn't won a championship by then.
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    I would love to get Bledsoe....

    If we trade them Pual, we would have to take back Odom to get Bledsoe to make money work!

    If we could convince them to take our picks and Watson for Bledsoe that would be awesome!!
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    Think about this more immediately. If the Clips had Millsap in there instead of ****ing Turiaf, then they'd seriously be real contenders. When an org has the opportunity that get that extra oomph, then the good ones take it and worry about the long-term later. They're going to lose Bledsoe anyway, so if they can use him to get over the top, then they should seriously consider it.

    (yes, I know Turiaf plays C. They'd put Odom at C and Millsap at 4. They've shown willingness to go small this year. And, they know the Heat will go small.)

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