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    Foye 26, Favors 24, Tinsley 22, Marvin 21

    Pretty clear who was our best player on the floor tonight and it really felt like he played the bulk of the game right? False another 24 minute night for the best player we had tonight playing great on both ends of the floor and not in foul trouble. Foye again had more minutes (Foye fan here) and Favors was about on par with Tinsley and Marvin Williams' minutes. Ty wants to keep starting Al/Sap, whatever I guess keep doing it, but he needs to be getting into the game halfway through the 1st and play most of the 2nd. Then in the 2nd half same thing get into the game early in the 3rd and into the 4th, maybe rest a few minutes, then back on the floor to finish the game.

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    Rookies don't win you games. Especially not on the road.

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    And until Favors has been in the league 10 years and played for at least 4 teams, then Corbin won't recognize that he's earned any grit or respect. JOURNEYMEN FOR TEH WINN!
    (first update) Offseason to-do list:
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    1. Let Mo, Foyeeee3, Al (s&t?), Watson, and Tinsley go.
    2. Re-sign Carroll
    3. Draft McCollum, Schroeder, and Giannis (leave the latter two in Europe for a year [maybe two years for Giannis]).
    4. Sign Tony Allen
    5. Try to keep Millsap. If that doesn't work, explore s&t options.
    6. Remove Corbin. Hire Brad Stevens or SVG.
    7. Sign Calderon to a one-year (2 max) deal, or see if the cash-strapped Lakers will let us absorb Nash's last year.

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    ^^^^^journeymen for teh winn!

    Good stuff naos..... i would rep but have given out too much in the last 24

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    GUYZ I lOVED WHEN CORBINS FINALLY WNET tO thE ROOKS IN THE FOURTH AGAINST THEIR DEEP BENCH. wE TOTS PWNAREXED THEM!

    bURKS, cARROLL, kANTER, eVANS WoRKED sACRE YO!


    Quote Originally Posted by billyshelby View Post
    I'm not down on Hayward. But my opinion is both Burks and Bledsoe will be better players than he is if they're not already. It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    GUYZ I lOVED WHEN CORBINS FINALLY WNET tO thE ROOKS IN THE FOURTH AGAINST THEIR DEEP BENCH. wE TOTS PWNAREXED THEM!

    bURKS, cARROLL, kANTER, eVANS WoRKED sACRE YO!
    bro calm down

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    Who gives a **** anymore. I'm somewhere in Poland drinking Żywiec with fantasic internet. This country is on it's way up.

    Should be fun watching the stream tonight....ok back to my pierogis, and beer.
    "Most nights (The Jazz) couldn’t stop a grandpa with a walker, particularly if he gave a head fake."

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    GUYZ I lOVED WHEN CORBINS FINALLY WNET tO thE ROOKS IN THE FOURTH AGAINST THEIR DEEP BENCH. wE TOTS PWNAREXED THEM!

    bURKS, cARROLL, kANTER, eVANS WoRKED sACRE YO!
    The data is pretty plain: The Jazz bench routinely outscores their opponents, while Jazz starters are routinely outscored this season (this was not the case last season). This isn't just a garbage time phenomenon (if Murph's +/- is a decent indicator of garbage time performance, the Jazz get outscored badly). Yes, the bench plays more minutes against bench players, but the disparity in +/- is so pronounced, we should be asking whether the starting/bench lineups are constructed to maximize wins THIS SEASON (irrespective of the damage that is possibly being inflicted on the Jazz's future).
    http://jazzfanz.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=133&dateline=1317382587

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    Quote Originally Posted by infection View Post
    Rookies don't win you games. Especially not on the road.
    Neither are the vets that we have. Take our 9-16 road record as evidence.

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    Hey, our journey vets beat the Spurs donchya know? That means we get top seed in the playoffs don't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
    Neither are the vets that we have. Take our 9-16 road record as evidence.
    You can't underestimate experience. These guys have been to the playoffs. Without that, there's no way to know what it takes to win on the road. Ty just does the best he can to hold the ship afloat and keep it from sinking with how many young, inexperienced guys we have that are forced into playing 15 minutes/night way before they're ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
    The data is pretty plain: The Jazz bench routinely outscores their opponents, while Jazz starters are routinely outscored this season (this was not the case last season). This isn't just a garbage time phenomenon (if Murph's +/- is a decent indicator of garbage time performance, the Jazz get outscored badly). Yes, the bench plays more minutes against bench players, but the disparity in +/- is so pronounced, we should be asking whether the starting/bench lineups are constructed to maximize wins THIS SEASON (irrespective of the damage that is possibly being inflicted on the Jazz's future).
    Agreed, and we've been over this. The differential between the bench and the starters is surrounded by a cloud of fog. One of the strongest benches in the league making up for 9th-10th seed starters.

    Let me make fun of the buffoons until Jefferson is traded and they give us a whole new reason to make fun of them.


    Quote Originally Posted by billyshelby View Post
    I'm not down on Hayward. But my opinion is both Burks and Bledsoe will be better players than he is if they're not already. It's that simple.

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