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    What should the Jazz do for a 3rd big man? And other 2013-2014 ideas.

    Here's what I would do for the Jazz next year if I was the GM.

    PG- Mo Will(resign 2-3yrs), Rookie PG in draft, Foye
    SG- Hayward, Burks, Foye
    SF-Carroll, Hayward, FA
    PF- Favors, Player X, Pogo stick
    C- Kanter, Favors

    My question is, who should be player X? AJ, Milsap, FA (who), or Draft pick (if so who, would be around pick 22 imo).

    I'm sick of watching Milsap and AJ not play defense. AJ needs to go. Milsap will go somewhere else likely. I want to see what Favors/Kanter can do when given the reigns.

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    Just go hunting in FA for another Landry, Bass, JJ Hickson, etc. I swear they are always available, a team gets them for dirt cheap, and I always say "Wow he was available? and for that cheap??"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipship31 View Post
    Just go hunting in FA for another Landry, Bass, JJ Hickson, etc. I swear they are always available, a team gets them for dirt cheap, and I always say "Wow he was available? and for that cheap??"
    If the Jazz don't take back salary for AJ/Milsap they should have plenty of money for someone.

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    Jazz need to trade their picks. Very few players drafted in the 20's have much impact. Either that, or go after a young Euro who won't be coming over right away. KOC/Lindsey need to go out and get a couple of young guys like they did in Boozer and Okur...players with a ton of upside who were underutilized by their respective teams.

    For that reason, I'm thinking the Jazz may NOT trade Al or Paul. Better to have $20M in salaries come off the books than to trade for another team's garbage: i.e. a vet with a bad contract on the downside of his career. As dipship mentioned, there are always guys available who come pretty cheap and turn out to be major contributors. Jazz will have the cap space available to go after some players. The key is evaluating that talent.
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    I really really really want the Jazz to get Pau Gasol.
    The Lakers are stupid, Pau looked really good today.
    I can't even imagine what Pau could do to the interior passing on this team. Just get Gasol somehow. His stock was/is at an all-time low and he can be a beast.

    Now we are going to be pissed at his soft D...but with the combo of Hayward, Favors, Gasol this team will just be scary. Elite....that's a 3-4th seed team.

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    We need to address the point guard spot and the 3. Either one or both. I think we have to find a way to make a big trade that can get us there. I think Al and Millsap both need to go. I would like to see us use everything we got that is expendable and turn it into 1 very good player. Either through the draft or a trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hack View Post
    We need to address the point guard spot and the 3. Either one or both. I think we have to find a way to make a big trade that can get us there. I think Al and Millsap both need to go. I would like to see us use everything we got that is expendable and turn it into 1 very good player. Either through the draft or a trade.
    We have to get Pau. So Milsap + Marvin/Foye + GS pick/Burks for Gasol.
    The PG's in this league suck. I think that the Jazz need to move a player (Marvin in the above case) and get someone from the D-League or sign someone to run the bench. Watson is just awful. Get some fresh legs at the very least to help run defense. Hopefully, though, with Pau, the offense will improve.
    I might be too high on Pau but his alley oop pass today was damn special. He didn't even look at Dwight, he knew where Dwight was before the play.

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    Jazz don't need to resign anyone this offseason, except maybe Mo Williams and Foye. I would be more than OK taking on a player with 2 years on their contract for Milsap or AJ if it meant a young player or better draft pick. I just don't want to resign them or let them both walk without getting some assets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoTown16 View Post
    Jazz need to trade their picks. Very few players drafted in the 20's have much impact. Either that, or go after a young Euro who won't be coming over right away. KOC/Lindsey need to go out and get a couple of young guys like they did in Boozer and Okur...players with a ton of upside who were underutilized by their respective teams.

    For that reason, I'm thinking the Jazz may NOT trade Al or Paul. Better to have $20M in salaries come off the books than to trade for another team's garbage: i.e. a vet with a bad contract on the downside of his career. As dipship mentioned, there are always guys available who come pretty cheap and turn out to be major contributors. Jazz will have the cap space available to go after some players. The key is evaluating that talent.
    For the however many-th time: the Jazz have to spend 90% of the cap one way or another. Having $40 million in cap space to spare means the Jazz need to find $36 million to spend, basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weezur View Post
    I really really really want the Jazz to get Pau Gasol.
    The Lakers are stupid, Pau looked really good today.
    I can't even imagine what Pau could do to the interior passing on this team. Just get Gasol somehow. His stock was/is at an all-time low and he can be a beast.

    Now we are going to be pissed at his soft D...but with the combo of Hayward, Favors, Gasol this team will just be scary. Elite....that's a 3-4th seed team.
    I don't think we'd be a top 4 seed, but I agree with everything else you said. (can't rep you)

    We just have to wait for the Lakers to go on another losing streak. A bell/jefferson for pau trade makes so much sense. I don't think we'd even have to give a pick. Even if LA doesn't keep jefferson, they get to clear cap space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bovice View Post
    I don't think we'd be a top 4 seed, but I agree with everything else you said. (can't rep you)

    We just have to wait for the Lakers to go on another losing streak. A bell/jefferson for pau trade makes so much sense. I don't think we'd even have to give a pick. Even if LA doesn't keep jefferson, they get to clear cap space.
    Really? I'm thinking that with Gasol, Favors, Hayward getting 30+ minutes a night, that's at least a 4th seeded team easy IMO.
    With Favors/Gasol, that would be a nightmare of a frontcourt on length and athleticsm. That could be the best froncourt in the NBA. I mean Pau can dunk the ball without even having to jump.

    If your trade works (Bell/Jefferson for Pau) then that would be a dream come true for the Jazz. I just don't think Jefferson fits their offense with Dwight.
    Bell is probably over-weight by now, he's done. Nobody wants that POS.

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    You lost me at resign Mo. But I'm not worried about a 3rd big so much as I'm worried about getting value for Al and Sap, whether it's trading them or letting them expire. But just to keep being a broken record, I'm a lot more worried that Ty won't be fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyshelby View Post
    You lost me at resign Mo. But I'm not worried about a 3rd big so much as I'm worried about getting value for Al and Sap, whether it's trading them or letting them expire. But just to keep being a broken record, I'm a lot more worried that Ty won't be fired.
    I'm OK with Mo if its around 7-8 million for 2 years. I hope he is our only returning PG, and I know the Jazz won't start a mid lottery rookie, so someone needs to be here. And I wouldn't mind having one veteran with the young guys (although at year 4 I would consider Hayward a veteran even though he is about 22-23)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weezur View Post
    Really? I'm thinking that with Gasol, Favors, Hayward getting 30+ minutes a night, that's at least a 4th seeded team easy IMO.
    With Favors/Gasol, that would be a nightmare of a frontcourt on length and athleticsm. That could be the best froncourt in the NBA. I mean Pau can dunk the ball without even having to jump.

    If your trade works (Bell/Jefferson for Pau) then that would be a dream come true for the Jazz. I just don't think Jefferson fits their offense with Dwight.
    Bell is probably over-weight by now, he's done. Nobody wants that POS.
    adding 1 player on the tail end of his prime (and losing a cancer) isn't enough to make us better than okc/spurs/clippers. Sure we might match up well against some of those teams, but I just don't see it happening. We would be at that second tier (grizz/denver) but those teams have been together longer and have a better coaches

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    Quote Originally Posted by bovice View Post
    adding 1 player on the tail end of his prime (and losing a cancer) isn't enough to make us better than okc/spurs/clippers. Sure we might match up well against some of those teams, but I just don't see it happening. We would be at that second tier (grizz/denver) but those teams have been together longer and have a better coaches
    It's more about adding 1 player, getting the rightful guys more minutes, and losing Al and Milsap. I guess you're right though, the other teams are very good. I just think that making these key moves makes us much much better. It puts us up there with the Grizzlies (moves us up a tier). I also think our defensive rating would skyrocket if we quit starting Foye/Milsap/Jefferson in place with Hayward/Favors/Pau as would our offensive rating.

    Right now, we're in the Houston/Portland tier which is an easy first round exit.

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