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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrone Torbin View Post
    Trading for Mo, trading for Marvin. How were any of those moves forced or reactionary?

    The Jazz knew they needed some shooting and they went out and made some great moves to get it.
    People still think Sloan's running this team, they haven't opened their eyes to the fact that we have went out and made moves when they are necessary. I can expect us to use the 20 million+ free cap space on some good players.

    When we had cap space back in 2002, we went for Jason Terry AND Corey Maggette.

    So take a minute to think about it, Josh Howard, Mo Williams 2.0, Jamaal Tinsley... Monta Ellis might be in a Jazz uniform next year. Who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fresh Prince View Post
    People still think Sloan's running this team, they haven't opened their eyes to the fact that we have went out and made moves when they are necessary. I can expect us to use the 20 million+ free cap space on some good players.

    When we had cap space back in 2002, we went for Jason Terry AND Corey Maggette.

    So take a minute to think about it, Josh Howard, Mo Williams 2.0, Jamaal Tinsley... Monta Ellis might be in a Jazz uniform next year. Who knows?
    Did we get Terry or Maggette...?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickledXgrandma View Post
    Did we get Terry or Maggette...?
    No.
    Well we signed them to an offer sheet with the most money we had, didn't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fresh Prince View Post
    Well we signed them to an offer sheet with the most money we had, didn't we?
    We could sign anybody with the right money, but getting the player here is a different story. The only way the jazz can attain a game-changer type player is through draft or trade.

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    The money, grandma, the money.

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    I also enjoy how everybody here thinks all an NBA star can think about is city life. It's about a career, and making the most money possible. If Utah offers a max deal to Monta Ellis, the fools going to bite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fresh Prince View Post
    I also enjoy how everybody here thinks all an NBA star can think about is city life. It's about a career, and making the most money possible. If Utah offers a max deal to Monta Ellis, the fools going to bite!
    Notice how you use Monta Ellis as the example though. He's not an all star, and never will be worth any kind of money we can throw at him.

    If you can, name me 1 legit all star who would seriously consider coming here............ **cricket**............ thought so.

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    But who do you consider legit All Star? Deron Williams? Chris Paul? Danny Granger? That guy right there, probably. Dwight Howard's stock might be a bit buckled from all of this madness in LA if they can't get everything straight. Yeah, I feel a few guys if given the money would come here. Boozer was a guy who ditched LeBron James for Utah... What about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fresh Prince View Post
    But who do you consider legit All Star? Deron Williams? Chris Paul? Danny Granger? That guy right there, probably. Dwight Howard's stock might be a bit buckled from all of this madness in LA if they can't get everything straight. Yeah, I feel a few guys if given the money would come here. Boozer was a guy who ditched LeBron James for Utah... What about it?
    I'm talking current legit All Star.

    Deron wanted out.
    Paul wouldn't even think about it.
    Granger is no longer an All Star.
    Dwight? Really?
    LeBron? No way.
    Boozer wasn't an All Star when he joined us.

    Let me help you... Houston had to throw a boat load of picks, young players, proven player at OKC to snag Harden who was a fringe All Star. It'll be even harder for Utah IMO.
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    Harden was a lock.

    Houston is the 4th largest city in the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
    Harden was a lock.

    Houston is the 4th largest city in the USA.
    Well there were questions whether he would be effective as a starter.

    But that's besides the point. Doesn't your statement work to further prove my point that it's difficult to relocate star player in this league?? If Houston has to give up so much to bring in Harden?
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    I don't mind us trying things, and giving players a shot.

    Foye is fine if used correctly. I feel more confident with him shooting 3s, than I do Korver.

    I was glad they went out and got Marvin. Low risk move that could pay off. It hasn't, and it's time to move on.
    The guy is a waste of space for the time he gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fresh Prince View Post
    Monta Ellis might be in a Jazz uniform next year. Who knows?
    Bite your damn tongue. We don't freakin want Monta Ellis in a Jazz uniform....Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotttnickkk View Post
    I know we all LOVE to HATE big Al but in the final 3 minutes VS Pacers, when we've got nothing going, dump it down to Big Al and he scored 5 straight points for us.

    Again in the OT, nothing going offensively, Al scored the first 4 straight points, all 1-on-1 against Hibbert. Then scored again when there's 2 min. left. Then AGAIN with 36 seconds left he SCORED.

    We can hate him all day long, but it's a fact that he's the main reason we just beat the Pacers.
    We can all point to at least a dozen instances this year where Al Jefferson performed like an All-Star. But after watching this guy day in and day out for 2 and a half years the sum of his parts have more than convinced he's not a winner. He just doesn't have the fire in his gut. I like the guy, I want him to succeed. I'm just a realist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotttnickkk View Post
    I'm talking current legit All Star.

    Deron wanted out.
    Paul wouldn't even think about it.
    Granger is no longer an All Star.
    Dwight? Really?
    LeBron? No way.
    Boozer wasn't an All Star when he joined us.

    Let me help you... Houston had to throw a boat load of picks, young players, proven player at OKC to snag Harden who was a fringe All Star. It'll be even harder for Utah IMO.
    You can't speak for everyone and each player's situation is different.

    Why wouldn't a pair of all stars team up on a team like Utah? I mean players are looking to build championship teams "themselves" why wouldn't they go to a place that could offer each of them the most money, best opportunity to win?

    if you don't have the allure of a warm weather city (which I find subject, did Orlando become a destination after Howard was there? no. Why hasn't Golden State, Phoenix, or Houston really able to capitalize on "warm weather" status?).. .it does matter what market you are in and yeah, the biggest players in the game want the most endorsement deals will go play for NYC or LA. You can't get around that. No other NBA city can compare to that.

    But if the market is shifting towards "I want to find a place that will help me contend and build championships" (the OKC model...) then I can't see why you wouldn't have SAS, Utah, OKC at the top of your list for destinations that you want to go to to win a championship.

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