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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncster View Post
    Not bad, I'm not crazy about the 1st round picks, but otherwise not bad.
    May 21- Draft Lottery; June 27- NBA Draft; July 11- FA signing period begins; Oct 11- Preseaon game in Boise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncster View Post
    I'd be down, but why would NOLA?
    Playing well is priority #1 and nothing outside of that is really even close. If you're hoping someone else ****s up, then you don't deserve the break.

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    NO does this because they get what Austin Rivers was supposed to be (Burks)
    They get Milsap and get rid of that crummy Eric Gordon contract.
    Jazz do this to get a star. The 2 first round picks suck anyways, so it's a good deal. Maybe a bit much considering Eric Gordon's contract situation and his injury status.

    Good trade! Not sure about Eric's injury history or long term effects but if healthy, he's an all star.

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    When Eric Gordon plays a full season or at least close to it, I would consider that trade.

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    Utah Jazz Would Be Wise to Trade Al Jefferson or Paul Millsap, Give More Minutes to Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter
    By Jared Bray | Yahoo! Contributor Network – 9 hours ago.. .



    COMMENTARY | There's a lot to like about the Utah Jazz's Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap.

    For one thing, they can put up solid numbers. Big Al, for instance, is averaging 17.1 points and 9.6 rebounds per game while connecting on 83.0 percent of his freebies. Likewise, P-Milly is shooting 48.0 percent from the floor and collecting 1.4 steals per contest. Plus, he can heat up fast, like 11-points-in-28-seconds fast.

    Here's the problem:
    This isn't fantasy basketball. In reality, Al and Paul can only take the Jazz so far, and as long as they're at the helm, it looks as if the Notes will always be good but not great.

    Accordingly, it's time for team officials to shake things up. It's time for at least one of these bigs to compete in a new uniform. And it's time to see what Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter, Utah's two No. 3 picks, can become.

    Favors, who currently averages 9.4 points, 6.4 rebounds and 1.4 blocks in just 21.8 minutes per game, has the potential to be a superstar. His size and athleticism are reminiscent of a young Amar'e Stoudemire (the Amar'e who in his sophomore season with the Phoenix Suns recorded a 10-block game against the Jazz, not the one who settles for mid-range jumpers with the New York Knicks). He knows how to disrupt opposing offenses, and he's exceptional at throwing the air-filled sphere through the nylon cords. In fact, No. 15 is one of the NBA's dunk leaders this year with 44 flushes.

    Similarly, Kanter, who's per-36 minute averages are nothing short of impressive for a guy who didn't pick up a basketball until five years ago, could turn into a very special player for the Jazz. Check out his line from Feb. 6 against the Milwaukee Bucks: 17 points, 9 rebounds, 5 blocks, 7-of-9 shooting from the field. Impressive, right? What if I told you he only played 17 minutes that night. Yes, it's true.

    Let's recap: If the Jazz stand pat at the trade deadline, they'll continue to play well. They'll even make the playoffs. But, like last year, they'll probably get eliminated in the first round.

    On the other hand, if they trade one (or both) of their veteran bigs, who have expiring contracts, by the way, Favors and Kanter will get the time they need to grow, and, with the help of fellow youngsters Gordon Hayward and Alec Burks, eventually turn this group of players into more than just a middle-of-the-pack team.
    "Most nights (The Jazz) couldn’t stop a grandpa with a walker, particularly if he gave a head fake."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncster View Post
    That is a horrible trade and you want to give NO two first round picks. Gordon is a very good player but he can't stay healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolution 9 View Post
    Utah Jazz Would Be Wise to Trade Al Jefferson or Paul Millsap, Give More Minutes to Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter
    By Jared Bray | Yahoo! Contributor Network – 9 hours ago.. .



    COMMENTARY | There's a lot to like about the Utah Jazz's Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap.

    For one thing, they can put up solid numbers. Big Al, for instance, is averaging 17.1 points and 9.6 rebounds per game while connecting on 83.0 percent of his freebies. Likewise, P-Milly is shooting 48.0 percent from the floor and collecting 1.4 steals per contest. Plus, he can heat up fast, like 11-points-in-28-seconds fast.

    Here's the problem:
    This isn't fantasy basketball. In reality, Al and Paul can only take the Jazz so far, and as long as they're at the helm, it looks as if the Notes will always be good but not great.

    Accordingly, it's time for team officials to shake things up. It's time for at least one of these bigs to compete in a new uniform. And it's time to see what Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter, Utah's two No. 3 picks, can become.

    Favors, who currently averages 9.4 points, 6.4 rebounds and 1.4 blocks in just 21.8 minutes per game, has the potential to be a superstar. His size and athleticism are reminiscent of a young Amar'e Stoudemire (the Amar'e who in his sophomore season with the Phoenix Suns recorded a 10-block game against the Jazz, not the one who settles for mid-range jumpers with the New York Knicks). He knows how to disrupt opposing offenses, and he's exceptional at throwing the air-filled sphere through the nylon cords. In fact, No. 15 is one of the NBA's dunk leaders this year with 44 flushes.

    Similarly, Kanter, who's per-36 minute averages are nothing short of impressive for a guy who didn't pick up a basketball until five years ago, could turn into a very special player for the Jazz. Check out his line from Feb. 6 against the Milwaukee Bucks: 17 points, 9 rebounds, 5 blocks, 7-of-9 shooting from the field. Impressive, right? What if I told you he only played 17 minutes that night. Yes, it's true.

    Let's recap: If the Jazz stand pat at the trade deadline, they'll continue to play well. They'll even make the playoffs. But, like last year, they'll probably get eliminated in the first round.

    On the other hand, if they trade one (or both) of their veteran bigs, who have expiring contracts, by the way, Favors and Kanter will get the time they need to grow, and, with the help of fellow youngsters Gordon Hayward and Alec Burks, eventually turn this group of players into more than just a middle-of-the-pack team.
    Are any of the Utah beat writers this intelligent, objective, or honest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    Are any of the Utah beat writers this intelligent, objective, or honest?
    I don't read the local print, but this is Gordon Monson's m.o. on the radio. He's also the guy who gives players/people zero benefit of the doubt and likes to stir the pot, so take it for what it's worth.

    Other radio guys on 1280thezone (an LHM company) have questioned all season long which one of the two to trade. They started out way more ambiguous and waited until I gave the green light before talking openly about trading Jefferson.
    hOLA hoDIPO

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    I'm not down on Hayward. But my opinion is both Burks and Bledsoe will be better players than he is if they're not already. It's that simple.
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    I Garan"DAMN"te Burks will be better than Victor!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncster View Post
    When I read this yesterday, I figured there was no way in hell New Orleans wants to part with Gordon, even considering how he begged them not to match Phoenix's offer sheet. Sure enough, New Orleans is listening to offers. I would do that trade in a heartbeat, Gordon is a perfect fit for us. I also would be willing to throw in both of our first round picks, but I think we could get it done with one. Hopefully use the other on a PG like Trey Burke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    Are any of the Utah beat writers this intelligent, objective, or honest?
    The beat guys are told not to give too much opinion, they are paid to cover what the team does, not what the team doesn't do. And they are all much better writers than this. Yahoo's contributors page is one of the worst blog sites, which is strange because Yahoo sports has the best paid writers in the biz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bat View Post
    The beat guys are told not to give too much opinion, they are paid to cover what the team does, not what the team doesn't do. And they are all much better writers than this. Yahoo's contributors page is one of the worst blog sites, which is strange because Yahoo sports has the best paid writers in the biz.
    Nice try, Locke.

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    I'd do this. I might be willing to throw in a 2nd-round pick as well. Not sure if the Clippers would though.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b3zeaen
    Short list at #14: CJ McCollum, Dennis Schroeder, Archie Goodwin, Kelly Olynyk

    Short list at #21: Steven Adams, Giannis Adetokunbo, Sergey Karasev, Nate Wolters

    2nd round: Carmichael, Hardaway Jr., Adonis Thomas, James Southerland

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    I would do this if Minnesota would give us their 1st-round pick this year. Problem is, I'm not sure Josh Smith would re-sign in Minny.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=alasxrb
    Short list at #14: CJ McCollum, Dennis Schroeder, Archie Goodwin, Kelly Olynyk

    Short list at #21: Steven Adams, Giannis Adetokunbo, Sergey Karasev, Nate Wolters

    2nd round: Carmichael, Hardaway Jr., Adonis Thomas, James Southerland

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    Any trade with Minnesota where we don't get Rubio is a waste for me.

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