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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrone Torbin View Post
    These rules are multiplied when that rookie is a lottery pick. The investment is too high to give up this early.
    Precisely.
    Quote Originally Posted by every forum dreg
    I think he can play SF

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    I wouldn't trade Burks for Knight. I got over not getting Knight before the lockout ended and haven't seen much to challenge that.

    That said, I would trade anything that's not picks or The Four for Knight. Because why not. There's a decent chance he gets better. Which is why Detroit shouldn't consider anything the Jazz should consider sending.
    Quote Originally Posted by every forum dreg
    I think he can play SF

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLI baby View Post
    My bad bro.

    Knight isn't avail, but anyone who wouldn't rather have him over Burks is craaazaaay.
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    We should have drafted Knight, so we could all watch him sit behind Watson until he learns to 'temper his chucking'.


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    With the addition of Calderon, Detroit is already looking like they have gave up on the Knight as a PG experiment. With 4 assists and 3 turnovers a game you can't blame them. The ratio is consistent with his last year and his year at Kentucky. 6'3" SGs get taken out to the woodshed in the NBA.

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    Maybe Detroit wants to try the Jazz model- Sit the youngs, play the vets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weezur View Post
    Maybe Detroit wants to try the Jazz model- Sit the youngs, play the vets.
    Yeah, they must have caught the game against Houston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    He was a one and done and in his 2nd season after the 1st being a shortened one.

    Amazing how we can be so "DON'T TRADE BURKS he's AWESOME!!!" but players of other teams suck early when putting up better numbers than our own starting, veteran, PG's.
    Don't trade Burks. He's awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    He was a one and done and in his 2nd season after the 1st being a shortened one.

    Amazing how we can be so "DON'T TRADE BURKS he's AWESOME!!!" but players of other teams suck early when putting up better numbers than our own starting, veteran, PG's.
    It's been like that around here for, oh, I'd say 10+ years.

    Nobody on this forum believes any player is better than the cast we have, just based off of FG%.

    I could eat a peach for hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz4ever View Post
    I think Burks would at least be putting up the same numbers as Knight had he been given 32 minutes a game for a season and a half. Also Burks has a true position at SG with the potential to play PG. Knight is a combo guard with no true position. All things being equal, you don't make that swap.
    100% in agreement that Burks is NOT a PG. I don't think he has the ball-handling skills, nor IQ to run point & if he's a SG, then he'd play behind Hayward.
    I would love to draft a Trey Burk, gamble on a Michael Carter Williams, or even have Marcus Smart (albeit not a true PG) but I don't think we would have the assets to trade up higher into the lottery for them (maybe 5-12th picks)?

    Our current trade assets into the draft
    - Favors/Enes (if we resign both Al/Paul, which is unlikely)
    - Hayward (doubtful, as we will be already thin at the wings)
    - Burks (still proven to get productive minutes)
    - our 1st (btwn 15-18)
    - GSW's 1st (btwn (20-25)

    Goal: Trade Burks/GSW 1st for Knight then Knight/UTA 1st for high lottery PG?
    i may quote myself from other treads... sue me!

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    Props to Knight tonight.

    He's not the player Irving is, obviously, but they went head-to-head tonight and here's the results;

    PTS
    Knight - 20
    Irving - 14

    REB
    Knight - 6
    Irving - 2

    AST
    Knight - 10 (1to)
    Irving - 5 (3to)

    Both had 2 steals.
    Knight had the only block.

    Knight hit 50% of his shots from 2pt range as well as 50% of his shots from 3pt range.
    Irving hit 40% from 2 and 33% from 3.

    Knight +30
    Irving -20
    #dumptruckin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    No way I'd trade Burks and a 1st for him. He can't shoot. He can't even come close to truly running the point. He can't blow by guys at will and finish. No, no, no, no no.
    he can blow guys at willand mke em finish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrone Torbin View Post
    These rules are multiplied when that rookie is a lottery pick. The investment is too high to give up this early.
    Recent lottery picks that were dumped w/in their first 3 years...
    Wesley Johnson
    Jonny Flynn
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    Michael Beasley
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    Spencer Hawes
    i may quote myself from other treads... sue me!

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