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    Here was my idea in another thread:

    Thanks for the input. How about this:

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b93v37j

    The changes are this:

    Utah gives up Al and Paul.
    Boston gives up Rondo and Pierce
    Brooklyn gives up Humphries
    Clippers give up Bledsoe and dead weight (Hill, Odom, Green)

    Utah:
    Rondo - Mo - Tinsley - Watson
    Foye - Hayward - Burks - Murphy
    Williams - Carroll
    Favors - Humphries - Evans
    Kanter

    Clips look like this:
    Paul - Billups
    Crawford - Barnes
    Pierce - Butler
    Griffin - Thompkins
    Jordan - Turiaf - Hollins

    Boston:
    Bledsoe - Terry - Bradley
    Lee - Barbosa
    Odom - Green - Hill
    Garnett - Bass - Sullinger - Wilcox
    Big Al - Melo - Collins

    The Nets basically swap Humphries for Millsap.

    The Clippers gain a superstar and keep Crawford.

    Boston gets their superstar with Al (I know, I know, but you can sell him as a guy to go next to Garnett), young potential pg, and cap room next summer.

    New Jersey gets Millsap for nothing.

    The Jazz get Rondo, and keep the big 4. I think the Jazz take the biggest risk out of the group. They give up two known commodities for potential in Favors and Kanter and Rondo might demand out if it doesn't pan out quickly.

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    This one has Garnett instead of Pierece going to LA.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ayravws

    Mo/Bledsoe
    Hayward/Foye/Burks
    Butler/Marvin/Carroll
    Millsap/Kanter
    Favors/Collins

    I like a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    Something that hasn't been mentioned (that I have seen) about Bledsoe is how he has the badass factor. He'd be a great addition to our young guys because he has a "let's kick the enemy's ass" mentality. I think we sorely lack that guy on this team.
    Yea, a little bit of the Garnett **** you attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qman View Post
    Yea, a little bit of the Garnett **** you attitude.
    Yeah... KG's on another level, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eenie-Meenie View Post
    OP, that's too much for Bledsoe. He's good but not that good. Besides, not sure we have anything that they'd want. Paul wouldn't get many minutes as they have Odom to backup Griffin; maybe Al could fit in as a low post scorer. Would they want Burks who would never get off the bench based on their current roster?
    Paul>>>> Odom!!!

    Odom sucks this year... With Paul they would have a great big sixth man to go with Crawford!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jope View Post
    Sorry, didnt have time to read all the 150ish posts,

    but am i interpreting this wrong? I thought Garnett had a no-trade clause?
    He does have a no trade clause. These are all assuming he'd waive it to go to LA for another championship run. I don't know what the people are thinking that have him coming to Utah in a proposed trade.

    Go Jazz.

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    Rather have Odom than Butler. Even if Odom quits on you, it is only for 40 games. Getting Butler would hurt the Jazz cap too much and they would have 2 mediocre SFs on the roster next year (assuming Marvin re-ups), who Corbin would play over Hayward and Burks.

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    I don't have the time to wade through all 11 pages of this thread, so someone might have already brought this up, so apologies if this is redundant.

    I used to be high on Bledsoe, but he has not been all the impressive running the point in Chris Paul's absence. Not only are his stats so-so, but the Clips are in the midst of a losing funk. I'm leaning now toward the opinion that Bledsoe is overrated, a bit of a tease in limited minutes, but full starter's minutes have begun to reveal his shortcomings.

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    Looks like this rumor has be squashed. Clips won't trade Bledsoe until Paul resigns.
    GVC'S thoughts on the Jazz drafting Hayward......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    and the Celtics won, again, without Rondo.

    I guess we cab deduce that both Rondo and Bledsoe suck. Also, CP3 sucked when in NO.
    Cute but Rondo's proven he can run a team and be a great facilitator, and Paul nearly took that NO team to the conference finals. Bledsoe's done neither. Even remotely done either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    Cute but Rondo's proven he can run a team and be a great facilitator, and Paul nearly took that NO team to the conference finals. Bledsoe's done neither. Even remotely done either.
    I get the logic, but I think Bledsoe has done remarkably well stepping in for Paul. Do you disagree? Also, NO ONE here has proposed a trade for Bledsoe that would net us Chris Paul, so no one is saying they're a good comp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    And once again, the Clips lost with him as their starting pg.
    Idiotic. The Clips outscored the Celtics by 14 in the 38 minutes he was on the court. In the 10 minutes he was on the bench, the Clips were outscored by 16. Not sure how you can pin this loss on him. What's your reasoning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    Paul nearly took that NO team to the conference finals.
    Paul won a single playoff series while in New Orleans. The Hornets missed the playoffs 3 of the 6 seasons Paul was there.

    ****, dude, a little intellectual integrity would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    I get the logic, but I think Bledsoe has done remarkably well stepping in for Paul. Do you disagree? Also, NO ONE here has proposed a trade for Bledsoe that would net us Chris Paul, so no one is saying they're a good comp.
    You said CP3 sucked when he was in NO. He didn't.

    And remarkably well? No, far from it. Unless you consider 2-5 in seven games versus just two teams who currently sit in the playoffs and 5.71 apg and 37.7% from the floor remarkable. Then, sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    You said CP3 sucked when he was in NO. He didn't.

    And remarkably well? No, far from it. Unless you consider 2-5 in seven games versus just two teams who currently sit in the playoffs and 5.71 apg and 37.7% from the floor remarkable. Then, sure.
    No, I didn't say CP3 sucked while in NO. I implied that his record, according to your logic, was an indicator he wasn't a good PG .. it was sarcasm.

    You're using Bledsoe as an example of being no good because of the Clips going 2 - 5 with Paul out. Two questions;

    1) Have you seen his stats, including +/-?
    2) When Paul is healthy, he starts and is backed up by Bledsoe .. when Paul is out, Bledsoe plays and is backed up by .. whoever. (Do you get this?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
    Idiotic. The Clips outscored the Celtics by 14 in the 38 minutes he was on the court. In the 10 minutes he was on the bench, the Clips were outscored by 16. Not sure how you can pin this loss on him. What's your reasoning?

    Paul won a single playoff series while in New Orleans. The Hornets missed the playoffs 3 of the 6 seasons Paul was there.

    ****, dude, a little intellectual integrity would be nice.
    Your first point is very fair. And looking back at his numbers, they're +/- is positive when he's been on the floor in those seven games.

    Paul however had mediocre talent at best while in NO and did quite well with it. Hell, they were one game from going to the conference finals had it not been for the Spurs the one year.

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