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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    Paul however had mediocre talent at best while in NO and did quite well with it. Hell, they were one game from going to the conference finals had it not been for the Spurs the one year.
    That's a different argument than the one you made initially.

    Also, Tyson Chandler-David West-MoPete-Peja-Chris Paul was far from mediocre. Pretty damn solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    No, I didn't say CP3 sucked while in NO. I implied that his record, according to your logic, was an indicator he wasn't a good PG .. it was sarcasm.
    His record was solid in NO despite mediocre talent. Bledsoe has much more talent in LA and has been 2-5.

    Admittedly, I've been a little overly harsh on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    Your first point is very fair. And looking back at his numbers, they're +/- is positive when he's been on the floor in those seven games.

    Paul however had mediocre talent at best while in NO and did quite well with it. Hell, they were one game from going to the conference finals had it not been for the Spurs the one year.
    Wait. Is this about Bledsoe sucking or Paul being great? I'll admit to the latter, but somehow I think the topic has changed.

    Unless I'm mistaken, this all started from you saying Bledsoe is a stupid head because of the Clips record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    His record was solid in NO despite mediocre talent. Bledsoe has much more talent in LA and has been 2-5.

    Admittedly, I've been a little overly harsh on him.
    Okie dokie. I'm not even trying to say he's awesome or anything, I just didn't like the argument that he must not be good because he's led the Clips to a 2-5 record.
    There are way too many other things to consider than to wholesale come to that conclusion.
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    He's actually led the Clips to a 5-5 record. Paul has missed 10 games this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
    That's a different argument than the one you made initially.

    Also, Tyson Chandler-David West-MoPete-Peja-Chris Paul was far from mediocre. Pretty damn solid.
    It's not a different argument. I simply said they were solid with him there, especially given mediocre talent. And dude, intellectual honesty? Mo Pete? Really? C'mon bro. I only wish I could go back to the old board to find the number of times you and others, myself included, said MoPete sucked and that Chandler and Peja were wildly overrated. Plus they had zero bench.

    I'll admit I was overly harsh but I'm not sure I'd say he's played exceptionally well given his marginally positive plus/minus vs. crap competition and their 2-5 record. That's all. Am I wrong here Jeffrey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    Okie dokie. I'm not even trying to say he's awesome or anything, I just didn't like the argument that he must not be good because he's led the Clips to a 2-5 record.
    There are way too many other things to consider than to wholesale come to that conclusion.
    Fair enough. But saying he's played exceptionally well isn't saying he played awesome? If it's not it's about as close as you get.

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    5-5, okay, okay. I just don't get the love by the board. A hard push for Teague, not Bledsoe, is what should be made imo.

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    I'd rather have Bledsoe. Glad we're now just sharing opinions rather than grossly spewing intellectual dishonesty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    5-5, okay, okay. I just don't get the love by the board. A hard push for Teague, not Bledsoe, is what should be made imo.
    To get Teague, the Jazz will have to overpay. I'm not buying on him being a big enough difference maker for that to make sense. Bledsoe could be available in a trade, and the Jazz would have the ability to match any offer for him in the summer of 2014. If he can be had for spare parts and mid-first round draft picks, it makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    I'd rather have Bledsoe. Glad we're now just sharing opinions rather than grossly spewing intellectual dishonesty.
    Dude, the Calipari thread is elsewhere. Now that's rife with intellectual dishonesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
    Dude, the Calipari thread is elsewhere. Now that's rife with intellectual dishonesty.
    LOL .. <3 having you around, Wes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
    LOL .. <3 having you around, Wes.
    I just heard some dude from sports illustrated on 1280 the zone who said that there have not been talks between boston and la about any bledsoe garnett trade.

    He also said that the clips will not trade bledsoe as long as cp3 has not signed an extension.

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    Mike Prada @MikePradaSBN about 5 minutes ago
    Eric Bledsoe has badly failed his chance to be a starter.

    Clippers trail Wizards 16-21.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow View Post
    Mike Prada @MikePradaSBN about 5 minutes ago
    Eric Bledsoe has badly failed his chance to be a starter.

    Clippers trail Wizards 16-21.
    Would love to know the context, because what an absurdly terrible notion to have in the 1st Q of one game.

    At halftime, Bledsoe has 10pts (on 50% shooting), 6asts (with 1 to), 1rb, 1stl, 1blk.

    What do you think his point is?
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