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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenofCapua View Post
    In my opinion racism starts with when you feel privileged, not personally but as an ethnical group from other ethnic sections of society and advances when you perform minor or more radical acts against the other sections of society.
    Unfortunately, a great deal of racism is unconcious. I don't think most police in NYC overtly say or think that young black/Hispanic men are more suspicious. However, they are quicker to interpret their behavior as suspicious. Restaurant owners won't overtly say or think that black applicants are criminal, but they hire and position white criminals in about the same way as black non-criminals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
    You can still have racist thought, opinions, cognitive short-cuts, etc. Everyone has them. That is not racism.

    You can even have racially discriminative actions, that don't upset an equal power balance, if such a balance were to exist. This might be because such actions don't distrub the equilibrium or form a dynamic equilibrium. That is not racism.


    Racism is when these thoughts, opinions, cognitive short-cuts, and discriminative actions combine to form a culture where people, either directly or indirectly, have their actions treated with different values, their personhood compressed and otherized, their opportunites curtailed, etc. There is no reverse racism. Racism requires teh existence of a group held as the normal, and by definition such a group is not marginalized.
    Yes it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kennykyle View Post
    Racism is an action, not a thought or opinion.
    It can be all three. The level and intensity of the racism may very but it can be any combination of the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
    Yes it is.
    Using the same word for different concepts only promotes confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
    Using the same word for different concepts only promotes confusion.
    So if I think "He's a dumbass becasue he's a beaner" that isn't racist?

    Bullcrap.
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    Just read this topic. Wow, this place is seriously a goldmine of ignorance sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost of Blue Edwards View Post
    No, it's not racism to acknowledge the simple fact that in the NBA black athletes are physically superior to white athletes due to simple genetic economics, i.e., the breeding of slaves in the 17th-19th centuries.
    .....basically, what you are saying is......white guys can't jump???

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    ...by the way, I'm getting out of this thread.....before I get slapped with 9 infractions and 12 violations by the Jazzfanz ethics committee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
    Unfortunately, a great deal of racism is unconcious. I don't think most police in NYC overtly say or think that young black/Hispanic men are more suspicious. However, they are quicker to interpret their behavior as suspicious. Restaurant owners won't overtly say or think that black applicants are criminal, but they hire and position white criminals in about the same way as black non-criminals.
    ....personally, I'm not hiring a guy who comes in loaded with jailhouse tats, his pants to the ground, and his cap on sideways......I don't care what race or color he is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinajazz View Post
    ....personally, I'm not hiring a guy who comes in loaded with jailhouse tats, his pants to the ground, and his cap on sideways......I don't care what race or color he is!
    ThanKKKfully, you'll never be in that position because you're a fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
    So if I think "He's a dumbass becasue he's a beaner" that isn't racist?

    Bullcrap.
    Clearly that is racist. It would be racist if he thought something of you because you are white. The difference he (one brow) is trying to explain (at least I think) is that racism by definition and to make things easier to discuss is not individual it is a culture. I think everyone is racist to some level and people being racist is a problem on all levels but racism is the issue of the minority being oppressed by the majority.

    On that note the one issue for me that gets confusing South Africa. Their racism issues are confusing to me. I guess the the majority is defined as controlling the money not by number of people or who is in charge of the government. Making white people who are less than 5% of the population still the problem for racism in their country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth View Post
    ThanKKKfully, you'll never be in that position because you're a fool.
    ...so exactly how many customers would I draw to my restaurant if all my employees or most of my employees dressed and looked like the person I just described?

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    personally i dont care if someone wears their cap on sideways. but maybe thats just because im not very racialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
    personally i dont care if someone wears their cap on sideways. but maybe thats just because im not very racialist.
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    ....well, the way I got it figured, if he doesn't know what way the cap was designed to be worn, and he can't figure that out, how is he suppose to give back correct change, or get an order right? Can't take the chance! Has nothing to do with being a "racialist"

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinajazz View Post
    ...so exactly how many customers would I draw to my restaurant if all my employees or most of my employees dressed and looked like the person I just described?
    Zero. Because you'd never own said hypothetical business because you're too ignorant to run your own life let alone a restaurant.

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