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BRING BACK DEMARRE CARROLL TRADE IDEA

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Jeffrey32

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Utah trades Alec Burks, #12, #60 to Toronto for DeMarre Carroll and #9.

Carroll wasn't the difference maker that Toronto hoped for. He brought defense, but was injured a lot and didn't get into the offensive flow. He needs a system with less one-on-one and more passing. Coach Q knows how to bring the best out of Carroll.

Burks is an insurance policy if the Raptors lose DeRozen, Terrance Ross or both. He gives them a third scorer which they did not have and is more of a solo-artist threat who could back up either guard spot or start.

Picks swap because Utah is helping Toronto free-up salary ($4m) to re-sign DeRozan. Utah has 3 picks in second round, so losing last one is no big deal. By moving up 3 spots, Utah's options increase to get Murray, Sabonis, or Brown.
 
Srs bruh? Here what Utah thinks.

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I LOVE Junkyard Dog. One of my favorite players in recent years. Great teammate. Great person. Developed into a great defensive wing. All that said. . . I still don't make this trade. Carroll is coming off of an injury filled season, but he's not getting any younger and his contract isn't getting any smaller.

Alec Burks contract is going to be an absolute bargain next year after salaries skyrocket and the FA market won't be very strong. If he stays healthy, he will easily be the team's best asset at the trade deadline or leading up to the 2017 draft.

I wouldn't hate a move like this, but I wouldn't make that trade.
 
I would do it. Don't see Toronto doing it, though. Carroll still has value.
 
dipship31 said:
Don't they have the room to sign Demar anyway?
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Yes and no. They'll be right at the salary cap line when his cap hold is instituted, which means that they can't afford to keep Biyambo. They have to have cap space to sign him. No Bird rights.

So, basically. . . signing DDR brings him back into the fold, but eliminates their ability to improve on this past season. Freeing up several million dollars gives them some breathing room to make other moves.
 
Ellis269 said:
Yes and no. They'll be right at the salary cap line when his cap hold is instituted, which means that they can't afford to keep Biyambo. They have to have cap space to sign him. No Bird rights.

So, basically. . . signing DDR brings him back into the fold, but eliminates their ability to improve on this past season. Freeing up several million dollars gives them some breathing room to make other moves.
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I think he meant doesn't Utah have the room to sign him anyway.
 
The Thriller said:
Why?

How does he improve the Jazz?
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Yes. Carroll played great in ATL with Coach Q and DMC credits CQS with improving his overall game. He is a strong defensive player, a great lockeroom guy, and an above average 3PT shooter. He seemed to like his time in Utah and was a crowd favorite. I think he could be a 6th Man of the Year candidate in a Jazz uniform.
 
Ellis269 said:
I wouldn't hate a move like this, but I wouldn't make that trade.
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This.
Interesting trade and pretty fair. I probably say no though.
 
King Cy said:
Don think they are that similar.
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Entitled to own opinion I guess. I bet on a lot of Raptors games this season so had them on a lot. To me they are eerily similar players. Burks has more success from 3 and DeRozan has a better mid-range game.
 
MDAV28 said:
Entitled to own opinion I guess. I bet on a lot of Raptors games this season so had them on a lot. To me they are eerily similar players. Burks has more success from 3 and DeRozan has a better mid-range game.
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I have always thought they were similar.
 
You don't want him back, he is injury prone. Not quite the defender he use to be, less hustle and his shot has fallen off. I see him a lot living here in Toronto.
 
MDAV28 said:
Entitled to own opinion I guess. I bet on a lot of Raptors games this season so had them on a lot. To me they are eerily similar players. Burks has more success from 3 and DeRozan has a better mid-range game.
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I see DDR as a rich man's Alec Burks. Burks has a better first step, DeRozan has a better handle, drive and dish, mid-range game and P&R awareness. I actually think that DeRozan can be a decent 3 point shooter if he would make better decisions and stick to catch and shoot and corner 3's (he shot 42% from those) as opposed to shooting off the high screen. Leave that shot to Hayward and Hood.

He also has good size for a SG : 6'7" - 220 lbs - 6'9" wingspan (at least when he was drafted). He's known for his work ethic and (I think) would thrive under Snyder with a strong team surrounding him. I think he'd be fantastic as the #1 option for the Jazz.

As far as Carroll goes. . . he's one of my favorite guys in the league, but I'd rather have the next DeMarre Carroll. The physically gifted, high energy guy that elevates his game under Quin Snyder. I was a string advocate for bringing him back last year. . . but I think that ship has sailed.
 
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