Rebounding wasnt really an issue. Jazz had an 88% defensive rebound rate.
Game Thread? Jazz @ Warriors. 2nd Round. 1st Game. (8:30 MT 5/2/17)
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Rebounding wasnt really an issue. Jazz had an 88% defensive rebound rate.
Cool stat: Warriors had 22 midrange points and 21 points from 3
Has that ever happened in Curry era Warriors history?
Has that ever happened in Curry era Warriors history?
kiri.de.carlos
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Douchebag K
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at least half that list the players were well past their primes or they're just really good NBA players not fully fledged hall of famers
jope
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.... cant tell if you're being serious....
27 of the 30 players I mentioned are or will soon be in the hall of fame. All but the rockets team (who still made it to the conf finals) won 1 or more championships, or attended the finals.
i think you're talking out your ***.
• kobe shaq malone payton -4 hall of famers, 2 in prime, 2 dwindling - finals
• magic, kareem, james worthy - 3 hall of famers, multiple chips
• elgin baylor, jerry west, wilt the stilt - 3 hall of famers, champs
• bird, mchale, parish, ainge - 3 hall of famers, multiple chips
• bill russell, sam jones, john havlicek - 3 hall of famers, multiple chips
• garnett, pierce, allen - 3 hall of famers, championship
• barkley, hakeem, drexler - 3 hall of famers, WCF
• jordan, pippen, rodman - 3 hall of famers, multiple chips
• thomas, mahorn, dumars, laimbeer - 2 hall of famers, and 2 great players - champs
fgcamel
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How many of them won 73 games then added another top 3 player in his prime? How many would be close to that?
jope
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thats entirely not my point at all. the original sentiment was that "super teams" are a new thing, which clearly they aren't. Hall of famers have been on the same team, dominating for decades. there's a reason bill russell has 11 chips and magic has 5.
jope
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i love having to explain the context of an articulate point, because some people cant read the conversation like 5 posts above the one they are commenting on.
jjscap
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Actually this game our defensive plan kind of worked. We played real close to 3P shooters and dared them to drive inside to face Gobert. In the end they struggled shooting the three. They made 7 threes and if I'm not wrong 4 of them come from transition/fastbreak.
Our problem was offense this game. If not for the poor offense we would not have allowed 100 points. Bad execution, forced shots, turnovers.. Actually any missed shot was a problem leading to a quick GSW play. Sometimes we executed well and found the wide open shot but Hill and Hayward bricked them.
We could not get anything going except some stretch in Q3 when we got easy buckets inside. This worked for us in G7 vs LAC, may work here too because our shooters are kind of cold.
Overall this was a good opportunity to steal a game as GSW did not look like their best but we did not make open shots and we turned the ball over often, made tons of unforced errors. We were really slow getting back to defense too and the transition points were the difference in this game.
Our problem was offense this game. If not for the poor offense we would not have allowed 100 points. Bad execution, forced shots, turnovers.. Actually any missed shot was a problem leading to a quick GSW play. Sometimes we executed well and found the wide open shot but Hill and Hayward bricked them.
We could not get anything going except some stretch in Q3 when we got easy buckets inside. This worked for us in G7 vs LAC, may work here too because our shooters are kind of cold.
Overall this was a good opportunity to steal a game as GSW did not look like their best but we did not make open shots and we turned the ball over often, made tons of unforced errors. We were really slow getting back to defense too and the transition points were the difference in this game.
Douchebag K
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i think i disagree with the definition of superteam. I'd more think of that as 3 franchise players or very close to it in their primes, or two current mvp types and some all nba types.
going thru your list .. malone dwindling, payton irrelevant
kareem was well past his prime and worthy was a terrific player but not necessarily a franchise player but i'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
baylor etc yes absolutely
parrish i wouldn't class as a franchise type player, and ainge ?? nah
celtics with garnett etc yep
rockets, drexler was on his last legs by then Nope
bulls yeah even tho rodman was not a franchise player
pistons ? lol mahorn, lambeer could hardly be called a great player and dumars not a franchise type not even close to a super team.
so probably 2-3 of those teams i'd class as super teams in the same class as the warriors/cavs/heat kinds of teams everyone's fretting about.
Tough game tonight. You just can't make mistakes against the Warriors. You can't turn the ball over against because more often than not they capitalize. We also need to hit those open shots.
Also, I rarely criticize Snyder but Exum needs to get some burn. He has to.
Also, I rarely criticize Snyder but Exum needs to get some burn. He has to.
Cavs aren't a super team tho. Aside from Lebron, they have 2 all-stars. Not HoF/MVP material.
We need to start putting together a longer range plan to take this team to the next level. What will get us there?
- healthy Favors. He just cant put a string of good games together. For him its not a talent issue, but a health one. He'd be giving us 16 a night, and a ton of boards if healthy
-consistency from key players. Hill, and Hayward have to bring it every game.
-secondary players cant have off games against the elite. Ingles and Hood seem to be the difference makers. When they are on we win.
-Diaw. Good against some teams, but is not someone you can play 20 mins against an elite team and expect to win. Need to upgrade, and have him on bench as last resort.
-Need more toughness. Bolomboy anyone? Booker type player? We will never win a championship without a mean mother****er on the team.
-Exum. It's time to play Exum. Mack is not part of our future. Exum has shown flashes this year. Let him make his mistakes now, and grow.
If we had a healthy Favors, a tough energy player, good games from our key players we would have a chance to win. I can visualize it.
- healthy Favors. He just cant put a string of good games together. For him its not a talent issue, but a health one. He'd be giving us 16 a night, and a ton of boards if healthy
-consistency from key players. Hill, and Hayward have to bring it every game.
-secondary players cant have off games against the elite. Ingles and Hood seem to be the difference makers. When they are on we win.
-Diaw. Good against some teams, but is not someone you can play 20 mins against an elite team and expect to win. Need to upgrade, and have him on bench as last resort.
-Need more toughness. Bolomboy anyone? Booker type player? We will never win a championship without a mean mother****er on the team.
-Exum. It's time to play Exum. Mack is not part of our future. Exum has shown flashes this year. Let him make his mistakes now, and grow.
If we had a healthy Favors, a tough energy player, good games from our key players we would have a chance to win. I can visualize it.
fgcamel
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Pretty condescending for someone who can't see how this super team is different to the ones you mentioned, which obviously prompted the initial post.
What kills me about Lyles.
He scored two times close to each other, then is lazy getting back, and gives up an and one.
It was nice to see him put the ball in the bucket though.
He scored two times close to each other, then is lazy getting back, and gives up an and one.
It was nice to see him put the ball in the bucket though.
Im not even worried about Lyles. Kid has a long way to go.
He might turn into a decent bench scorer, but he cant defend or rebound. That is a huge concern.
When I said that Im not even worried about Lyles, I meant that in the sense that we are in the 2nd round of the playoffs playing arguably the best team in the league. Lyles is not on my radar right now. He's a bench warmer getting garbage minutes. My concern our squad beating the Warriors.
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I've said it before, the league has a Problem because what happens in July is more important than what happens in may and June. the season is irrelevant, the first two rounds of the playoffs are at risk of becoming irrelevant too.