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What do you do with Rubio long-term?

What should the Jazz do with Rubio?

  • Continue to start him, let him go in the offseason

    Votes: 7 12.3%

  • Continue to start him, re-sign him in the offseason

    Votes: 12 21.1%

  • Trade him now for whatever you can get back

    Votes: 4 7.0%

  • Trade him now if you can get a good value back

    Votes: 21 36.8%

  • Bring him off the bench, re-sign him in the offseason

    Votes: 7 12.3%

  • Bring him off the bench, let him go in the offseason

    Votes: 4 7.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 3.5%
  • Total voters
    57
NAOS said:
Why should we trade for Niko when he’ll be UFA at the end of the season? And how much is he going to get paid?
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1. Make sure you've got him in the pocket already.
2. Free up more cap space with the contract of a guy who I believe we will continue to be having the exact same discussions about a year from now and two years from now.
 
Well, assuming he comes back in time, the Jazz should at a mimimum start him through the trade deadline and see what other options are available.
 
infection said:
1. Make sure you've got him in the pocket already.
2. Free up more cap space with the contract of a guy who I believe we will continue to be having the exact same discussions about a year from now and two years from now.
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I would move Ricky for him but I’d keep Dante... nikos caphold is similar to Ricky’s so it would address a need and we’d have some opportunity to shop.

Might also find out he’s a bad fit and let him go... would suck but better than making an investment on a guy that’s a bad fit.

I don’t think NO would do it honestly... but we should make a phone call... once the saints are eliminated they might do something with the basketball team... if they have time between now and the nfl draft.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I would move Ricky for him but I’d keep Dante... nikos caphold is similar to Ricky’s so it would address a need and we’d have some opportunity to shop.

Might also find out he’s a bad fit and let him go... would suck but better than making an investment on a guy that’s a bad fit.

I don’t think NO would do it honestly... but we should make a phone call... once the saints are eliminated they might do something with the basketball team... if they have time between now and the nfl draft.
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I can’t see any reason why NO trades for Exum or Rubio unless they’re also trading Davis and clearing the decks.
 
NAOS said:
I can’t see any reason why NO trades for Exum or Rubio unless they’re also trading Davis and clearing the decks.
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I agree but they seem to like non shooting pgs alongside Jrue.

Only reason they move Niko is because they can’t really play all of Randle/AD/Niko together and the need perimeter help in the worst way... I could see them going for Matthews, Bazemore, or someone like that... may not need to put Niko in those deals.
 
Tobias Harris is the stretch-4 I (and Donovan?) want. He's shooting 88-50-44.

Rubio would be stupid to ask for too much money and leave the Jazz. This franchise is exemplary, competitive, and supportive. A great coach, a deep roster, the #1 defense, a soon to be top 10 player.
Out there, 99% chances he's going to end up in a worse place and a worse situation.

He knows it. This is from last summer:
https://www.elperiodico.com/es/liga...ecto--solido--apuesta--proyecto--jazz-6955148
Next season he will be a free agent, but he declared not to be worried by the economic aspect of the decision, since he had already earned enough for him, his children, and grandchildren.

"I'm not going to lie. Economically, of course I Will have my demands, but I don't intend to strike it rich in my next contract. Or at least it won't be the main thing I will be looking for. My last contract was already very good (4 years, 55M). I've already earned a lot of money. I never thought I would earn so much. Now I want a project in which I'm comfortable, and in which things go well for me and my family."
 
NUMBERICA said:
I don’t know but it’s up to him to show he belongs and can be consistent.

I prefer that he stay and comes off the bench for cheap money but that sounds like an unlikely scenario.
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This is tough. The good thing is we have 3-5 months left to see how things play out.

I’m to the point now where if Mitchell shows another two strong weeks of play at the 1 (and we go say 5-2 or 4-3 over the next seven games), I’m willing to trust him at the 1 next year.

We would still have Exum, Neto and Allen to play some 1, as well as Ingles who handles the ball a lot. Knowing Mitchell can be a 1 or 2, and that we have Exum, Royce (sorry I trust him), and Ingles puts me at ease on the wings, and given positionless basketball, makes me think we could simply go after in FA the best available PG, SG, or even SF.

Our guys are flexible that way. We won’t need to retain Rubio or fill his shoes per se imo. We just need to go after the best basketball player(s) we can get and shooting, buying into team defense and effort, and shot creation are keys.
 
My hope is that Allen really starts to show something the next couple weeks (and months of course) while he has the opportunity to increase his trade value.

Maybe we could pull a Lyles 2.0 and use him and our 1st to move up.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
My hope is that Allen really starts to show something the next couple weeks (and months of course) while he has the opportunity to increase his trade value.

Maybe we could pull a Lyles 2.0 and use him and our 1st to move up.
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Given this is a shaky draft after the top tier, I think Allen, our 1st, and maybe even a 2021 1st, could be enough to move up a lot, if we fall in love with someone.
 
I think we should keep Allen. If he figures it out a bit more, he could fit nicely next to Donovan. Since he was drafted, I thought he would be a great bench wing for down the road. I still have faith in that.

If Donovan leads us to 10 wins as the starting PG (much like HH was saying), we should trade Rubio before the deadline although I know our Front Office doesn't usually trade guys even when we know they might just let them go.

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If Allen comes to resemble the player he was at Duke in his senior year (with more disciplined and focused defense), that’s pretty ****ing good next to Mitchell.
 
NUMBERICA said:
If Allen comes to resemble the player he was at Duke in his senior year (with more disciplined and focused defense), that’s pretty ****ing good next to Mitchell.
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He's shown some flashes... just looks pretty overwhelmed... understandable but I think we all hoped he was a little more ready since he's older/experienced. He hasn't had any time to really put it all together yet. I wasn't a big fan of the pick, but I'm pretty optimistic he'll be at least a solid rotation guard in the next 2-3 years. He's shown he's capable of playing defense... which was my biggest worry. I don't think he has a lot of trade equity anyway.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
My hope is that Allen really starts to show something the next couple weeks (and months of course) while he has the opportunity to increase his trade value.

Maybe we could pull a Lyles 2.0 and use him and our 1st to move up.
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Wes Mantooth said:
Given this is a shaky draft after the top tier, I think Allen, our 1st, and maybe even a 2021 1st, could be enough to move up a lot, if we fall in love with someone.
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lindsey is not going to trade him. he's cheap, fits their culture, and is improving in a short timeframe in a difficult rookie year so far. he's a perfect fit next to donovan if he becomes what he's capable of and what quin/lindsey drafted him for.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He's shown some flashes... just looks pretty overwhelmed... understandable but I think we all hoped he was a little more ready since he's older/experienced. He hasn't had any time to really put it all together yet. I wasn't a big fan of the pick, but I'm pretty optimistic he'll be at least a solid rotation guard in the next 2-3 years. He's shown he's capable of playing defense... which was my biggest worry. I don't think he has a lot of trade equity anyway.
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i think he was/is ready offensively; he showed that in preseason and didn't look overwhelmed at all. defense was always going to be his problem and i think he was shellshocked at the amount of early DNPs and limited minutes. between injuries and the lack of PT, it clearly affected his confidence/rhythm, same with georges. he's going to get better as his time on the floor increases. even if his shot isn't falling, at least he's proving that he won't hurt the team so much defensively which is by far his most important tool to get playing time. this rookie season is almost identical to his freshman year at duke. we can only hope it ends the same way his freshman season did.
 
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Jazzta said:
Nemanja Bjelica
Noah Vonleh
Juancho Hernangomez

I think any of those three could mesh very well with the kind of offense that we run with Rubio.
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Unfortunately, Favors is so vastly better than any of those guys that, in the end, the team wouldn’t take a step forward.

I’m not a Vonleh fan at all, but those other guys would be worth considering as bench pieces, though (in fact, Bjelica would be one right now if I were running things).
 
NAOS said:
Unfortunately, Favors is so vastly better than any of those guys that, in the end, the team wouldn’t take a step forward.

I’m not a Vonleh fan at all, but those other guys would be worth considering as bench pieces, though (in fact, Bjelica would be one right now if I were running things).
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I don’t think the pool is very big but drop Mirotic as a “Favors” caliber player then, I really like him as well.
 
stormkoopacv03 said:
Donovan has been playing lights out after starting at pg and the jazz have won 5 straight. Right now, he's the Damian Lillard for the Jazz and is tearing it up. I'm going to feel a little bit uneasy when Rubio returns. I like Rubio but he's too unpredictable at most times and becomes Bricky Ricky too many times. It pains me to say this, but I'd trade him now for a player will helps in the playoffs. But then again, DL will never do that as of right now.
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Trade Ricky for who?

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Ellipse said:
I hate Ricky's shooting, but none of the players you mention are any better from 3 than Ricky and are worse at running the offense (I think the jury is still out on DM). Why do we want to dump Ricky again?
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DM is better from 3 but his percentage isn't as good because he is getting a lot more attention from the defense.
 
On the Bricky front, is the current starting five the five we roll with the rest of the year?
 
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