RJF
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The defense has ample opportunity to respond and didn’t. LA’s defense did though when they picked off Brees.
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The defense has ample opportunity to respond and didn’t. LA’s defense did though when they picked off Brees.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Lol. The one time they did touch him it cost them 15 yards and possibly the game and chance to play in the Super Bowl.
But they only have themselves to blame. Just heard on ESPN that the only negative gain the pats. had on offense was their end of game kneel down. That’s just how soft KC’s defense won. They deserved to lose.
Defense is part of the game. LA did it’s job, they are in the Super Bowl, KC didn’t, they’ll be watching the Super Bowl with the rest of the world.
No, idiot!! It’s like me throwing the first punch and you are out like a light and laying on your ***, you could’ve dodged or blocked but didn’t. That’s what happened in OT
That’s one magic coin. Lol
As a 49er fan I haven’t been willing to admit it, but after last night, I can’t deny he’s the best QB of all time, but not best players that still belongs to the goat, Jerry Rice. Haha.
**** the pats.
Having said that, is there even an argument for anyone but Brady being the best QB of all time. I mean the separation between him and the other greats is about as wide as it is between the other greats and Paxton Lynch at this point.
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Yes, there’s an argument. He’s been the beneficiary of a joke of a division for almost his entire career. And Montana had far stiffer competition in the Bears, Giants and Skins in certain years than Brady has had to get the Super Bowl.
Having said that, 9x is 9x. And he never had a Rice (Moss for one stud year) nor the luxury of no salary cap.
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Let me ask you this. Does the team that wins the toss ever choose to go on defense first?
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Let me ask you this. Does the team that wins the toss ever choose to go on defense first?
I think we so know that the answer is no. So if every team chooses to get the ball every time then there must be some kind of advantage to getting the ball first. Why should one team start with an advantage over the other team in overtime based off a coin?
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No, but if they made the necessary plays in regulation it wouldn’t matter.
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Good point about the Rams picking off Brees.
I think an even better strategy would be for the defense to just get an interception every time the offense has the ball throughout the whole game. They should just do that in every game and then they would probably win the Superbowl every year
Actually every team should just get an interception on every possession in every game. Of course that would make for a lot of 0-0 games and would be kinda boring.
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But It did matter. A coin shouldn't matter.
So you agree that it's advantageous to win the coin toss?
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Ya, they should have just held the patriots to zero points in regulation. I agree. That was stupid of them to let the patriots score. I wonder why they went with the let the patriots score strategy instead of the don't let the Patriots score strategy. Strange coaching.
If I were coaching I would just hold the other team scoreless and win every game. Seems like a better gameplan to me.
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If the patriots would have made the necessary plays in regulation then it wouldn't matter.
Luckily the patriots didn't need to make the necessary plays in regulation because they got some help from a coin.
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What if in the Olympics in the 100 meter race they flipped a coin and who ever won the coin toss got a 1 second head start? When that person won the race would we just be like "well the other guys should have just ran faster than normal and won the race anyway"?
Btw I'm not a patriots hater or a chiefs fan. Im actually happy that the Patriots won.
Just think that coin should have zero effect on the outcome of a football game. Also I don't think the coin has a big effect on the outcome. I think the effect the coin has is quite small actually. I remember seeing the stats for how often the coin toss winner wins the game and its not a ton more often than the coin toss loser. But the coin toss winner does in fact win more games than they lose.
So maybe the coin has only a 5 percent effect on the outcome. Maybe only 1 percent. I think it should have zero effect.
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Btw I'm not a patriots hater or a chiefs fan. Im actually happy that the Patriots won.
Just think that coin should have zero effect on the outcome of a football game. Also I don't think the coin has a big effect on the outcome. I think the effect the coin has is quite small actually. I remember seeing the stats for how often the coin toss winner wins the game and its not a ton more often than the coin toss loser. But the coin toss winner does in fact win more games than they lose.
So maybe the coin has only a 5 percent effect on the outcome. Maybe only 1 percent. I think it should have zero effect.
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There's just not a realistic alternative imo. Unless you think they just just keep playing normal quarters until someone ends the game with the lead, which is unworkable for a variety of reasons.
A team gets a slight edge by winning a coin toss, but there are plenty of other 'random' factors that contribute to deciding a football game, like wind speed and direction, injuries, missed calls, etc.
If your defense can't stop the other team from scoring what they know will be a game winning TD, you don't deserve a spot in the Super Bowl, it's that simple. There's a reason they say defense wins championships...
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No realistic alternative lol. Have you ever seen a college football game play overtime. It's way more fun imo.
There are many other things they could do to decide who gets the ball first as well. That could actually be quite fun to watch.
Some ways that I personally would enjoy watching.
1. Have each team pick their fastest player and have them race. Winner gets the ball first.
2. Each team picks their strongest player and those guys arm wrestle. Winner gets the ball first.
3. Each field goal kicker has a field goal competition. Start at the 50 and move the ball a few yards farther away each time until only one makes it.
4. Trivia competition between the head coaches.
Or just do what college football does. It works great.
Or any number of other things that aren't pure luck/chance
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If a coin toss doesn't matter why are teams happy when they win the toss? It shouldn't matter right?
It gives the attacking team the advantage of being able to attack straight away WITHOUT having to defend, THEN attack.
That's the difference, and that's why every team would rather win the toss than lose it.
The NO call sucked, but they still had their chances to win and didn't. Refs make mistakes, you can't leave the game up to them.
The coin toss sucks. It's dumb that it gives a huge advantage to one team. Especially when it's a shoot out type of game. They set the record for most points in an AFC championship 4th quarter. Neither team could be stopped, the defenses were worn out. But Brady and the Pats were clutch on those 3rd and longs.
The coin toss sucks. It's dumb that it gives a huge advantage to one team. Especially when it's a shoot out type of game. They set the record for most points in an AFC championship 4th quarter. Neither team could be stopped, the defenses were worn out. But Brady and the Pats were clutch on those 3rd and longs.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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No, that would be silly.
Football is tha ultimate team game. If the offense is great but defense is much worse than your opponent, there’s a good chance you lose. If both offense and defense is on point you most likely win. KC put NE in three 3rd and long situations in overtime, in all three occasions pats made a play and the defense didn’t. That’s the ballgame. Had the defense (one of three phases of the game) made a play Maholmes gets on the field. The offense made plays and kept Maholmes off the field. They made the plays necessary to win the game.
The cold hard fact is NE made more plays then KC.
They have absolutely the worst overtime period in sports. It’s ridiculous!! And the team that wins the coin toss in that still has the advantage as well.
Not just hell no but **** no!! I’m not stopping a game everytime a flag is thrown. NFL would become unwatchable
Coin toss does matter and gives one team an advantage, so what!!? Both teams have a 50/50 chance to win it. If you lose the toss, so what. Go play football make a ****ing play.